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Old 09-09-2016, 06:49 PM   #21
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We just have the one system...

The only thing running when we are sleeping is the diesel genset. That is linked into the blowers so it won't start unless the blowers are on.
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Old 09-09-2016, 06:55 PM   #22
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If you are not near a USCG Aux look up USPS.org....sail & power squadrons offer the same vessel safety checks.

USPS also offers many basic & advanced boating courses...everything from badic seamanship ...engine maintenance. ..to celestial navigation and many squadron are doin on the water training courses.
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i installed a Kidde Smoke/CO detector about a year and a half ago. One morning I went down to the boat and the alarm was indicating smoke. There was none. I took it off and set it on top of the cabin. It stopped beeping so I put it back where it belongs, on a bulkhead in the salon. Two weeks ago I went down to the boat and the alarm was beeping again, once every three seconds. Again I took it off the wall and put it on top of the cabin. We went out cruising that weekend and at 5:30 in the morning, the detector went off, outside! Could not shut it off! It was pretty funny to me, maybe not so much others anchored nearby. I finally wrapped it in a towel and tossed it in the freezer. I wrote the company and they are sending me a new one.
According to the company, home smoke detectors should not be exposed to temperatures lower than 4 degrees C, or high humidity. They suggest I take it home with me when not in use.
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Old 09-10-2016, 07:17 PM   #24
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According to the company, home smoke detectors should not be exposed to temperatures lower than 4 degrees C, or high humidity. They suggest I take it home with me when not in use.
I guess they don't recommend their products for the humid areas of FL, the Eastern Seaboard, the Midwest, Washington DC metro area or the Gulf States, huh? (insert headscratch here)
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Old 09-10-2016, 07:25 PM   #25
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Hey...if you need milspec stuff...buy it...

I live on a boat that for the most part is not much different than the homes or condos just 100 feet away.

My boat isn't an offshore racer or fishing battle wagon subjected to dousing spray, vibration and jolts every day or so...

It isn't a submersible or high performance round the world sailor.

It is a go slow, barely vibrate or roll, open and airy liveaboard.

Most of the ABYC and other standards that include all boats of all sizes and uses is just plain BS and I carefully select the difference between what works and doesnt.

For me, household smoke and CO alarms have worked just fine, as advertised with no false alarms and the fringe benefit of early alerts on cooking batteries.

Good for everyone?...probably not...but for ease and price...if you think they will work for you..they probably will.

Just use your head instead of believing everything you read about how marine products are necessary or better...often...they are not.
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As a struggling retiree, I agree.

I also use RV components such as my combo propane/CO detector in the salon/galley.

I'd rather have several inexpensive monitors that cover all areas of the vessel and deal with a few false but verifiable alarms than have one or two more expensive detectors without adequate coverage.

I picked up an armful of $5 smoke alarms from Ace Hardware and Walmart that have been very reliable. They're all identical so operation, maintenance and testing is simple. I had one fail (it started chirping every couple of minutes) a few months ago while I was onboard. I had a replacement installed within 5 mins with the same hole patterns for all mounts.
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...I had one fail (it started chirping every couple of minutes) a few months ago while I was onboard.
At home, that usually indicates low battery. But at $5 per unit....
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At home, that usually indicates low battery. But at $5 per unit....
I agree, but that didn't help in this case.
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Old 09-11-2016, 03:14 PM   #29
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You also need to have the Rules To Navigation on board.

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Didn't catch this earlier...clarification...

Nav Rules req'd only for 39 ft & above.
Worth having for learnung & reference but not req'd. Also electronic copies qualufy if you do need them aboard.
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The USCGAUX decal may or may not ever prevent a regular boarding..
It doesn't. Two old people and a puppy on a trawler with an apparent target on the stern. Two boardings in two years with up to date inspection decals.


A reason for having a CO alarm on a diesel boat is possible CO from rafted or nearby gasoline powered boats or gasoline generators. If you are one of the folks who carries a portable gasoline generator on your boat and uses it, one or more CO detectors are a must even if the boat is diesel powered.


Regardless of any legal requirements, having smoke and CO detectors installed on your boat is a matter of your and your family's safety.
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It doesn't. Two old people and a puppy on a trawler with an apparent target on the stern. Two boardings in two years with up to date inspection decals.


A reason for having a CO alarm on a diesel boat is possible CO from rafted or nearby gasoline powered boats or gasoline generators. If you are one of the folks who carries a portable gasoline generator on your boat and uses it, one or more CO detectors are a must even if the boat is diesel powered.


Regardless of any legal requirements, having smoke and CO detectors installed on your boat is a matter of your and your family's safety.
No gas on the boat. My insurance company requires them. Go figure!
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I don't fear too many things on a boat while I am awake...


sleeping is another story....


2 smoke and 2 CO detectors are worth the $100 so I can sleep better.
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2 smoke/CO detectors for the sleeping compartments from HD or Lowes for less than $40. 10 min to install. Done. Next project.
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I have home smoke and fire detectors aboard.
I'm on land at the moment so I guess it's appropriate.
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No gas on the boat. My insurance company requires them. Go figure!
I also got "nabbed" when my ins co required a no cost survey a couple of years ago.
I had to install a CO detector in the sleeping cabin and put a fire extinguisher on the flybridge.
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I don't fear too many things on a boat while I am awake...
I fear running out of ice
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I fear running out of ice
Thus my recent purchase of a table top IGLOO ice maker....

Has been running 16 hrs a day since May...never a shortage of cocktail ice...

Yes a greater fear than old hoses.
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While aware that carbon monoxide is not likely to be a problem on a diesel boat, except perhaps from a propane stove, our insurance company insisted we fit both CO and smoke detectors. We fitted one of each at both interior levels on the boat. We did fit "marine" units at a significant premium to "domestic". My conclusion is you are better off buying "domestic". The marine CO units only lasted a year or so before beginning continuous chirping. I replaced batteries to no avail. Turned out the units had hit their 5-year expiration date and were no longer operative. My conclusion was that marine unit sales are low and old inventory may be the norm. Better to buy fresh at Home Depot. The inside of a dry trawler is not much different to the inside of a dry basement.
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Many marine labeled products bear close watching.

Some are worth it, some are not.

In the case of detectors that have a huge track record ashore...I feel confident in my decision that home detectors are acceptable for the task...maybe even better.
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Many marine labeled products bear close watching.

Some are worth it, some are not.

In the case of detectors that have a huge track record ashore...I feel confident in my decision that home detectors are acceptable for the task...maybe even better.
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