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03-23-2012, 10:45 PM
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Hospitality Officer
City: Pittwater
Vessel Name: Sarawana
Vessel Model: IG 36 Quad Cabin
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Removing front window
I could'nt find anything covering this in archives, so i will pose the question here.
I need to replace the front window, not sure how to go about removing the outside wooden frame, without damaging it. As the finish is a gloss paint, I can't find any obvious dowling points*or screw heads to give me an idea.
Any advice appreciated.
Cheers,
Andy
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03-23-2012, 10:52 PM
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Guru
City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer 32'
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RE: Removing front window
The screws will be there. You may have to scrape the paint off enough to get an idea of the pattern of fasteners and how many.
You will need to repaint anyway so you won't lose anything by the scraping.
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03-24-2012, 02:37 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,563
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Removing front window
Greetings,
As Mr. C lectric says, the screws will be there. I might mention, when removing the trim on the fixed widows, take a sharp knife and cut the paint between the trim pieces and the house (right in the corner). This SHOULD minimize chipping of the paint on the house.
-- Edited by RT Firefly on Saturday 24th of March 2012 04:00:46 AM
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03-24-2012, 05:14 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
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RE: Removing front window
Good luck with that Andy. I've got nothing helpful to add to what has already been said - except it might be time to replace the hat there as well, while you are at it, like.
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03-24-2012, 06:42 AM
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Hospitality Officer
City: Pittwater
Vessel Name: Sarawana
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RE: Removing front window
It's a special airconditioned model
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03-24-2012, 06:44 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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RE: Removing front window
Greetings,
Um....I suspected the air conditioning "vents" in the hat were to let the bats fly in and out....belfry s anyone?
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03-24-2012, 07:11 AM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
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RE: Removing front window
Key chain magnets work well for locating screws under paint. Dangle just above the surface and it will stick to the heads under the paint.
However if they are non magnetic you are screwed.
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03-24-2012, 04:30 PM
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Hospitality Officer
City: Pittwater
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RE: Removing front window
Quote:
CPseudonym wrote:
Key chain magnets work well for locating screws under paint. Dangle just above the surface and it will stick to the heads under the paint.
However if they are non magnetic you are screwed.
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BOOM BOOM as basil brush would say
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03-24-2012, 04:44 PM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
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RE: Removing front window
Quote:
CPseudonym wrote:
Key chain magnets work well for locating screws under paint. Dangle just above the surface and it will stick to the heads under the paint.
However if they are non magnetic you are screwed.
I would expect them to be stainless steel or bronze on a boat so thatmagnet thing won't work.
A metal detector (the wand style) should work, woodworkers use them to find nails in*reclaimed wood before running it through their planers.
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03-24-2012, 09:23 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
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RE: Removing front window
Quote:
rwidman wrote:CPseudonym wrote:
Key chain magnets work well for locating screws under paint. Dangle just above the surface and it will stick to the heads under the paint.
However if they are non magnetic you are screwed.
I would expect them to be stainless steel or bronze on a boat so thatmagnet thing won't work.
A metal detector (the wand style) should work, woodworkers use them to find nails in*reclaimed wood before running it through their planers.
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*I agree completely with your statement however I am learning to never underestimate the ability of a previous owner to cheap out. I've also discovered some low grade stainless does respond to a magnet.
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03-25-2012, 11:06 AM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
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RE: Removing front window
I'd try using a stud sensor like this to find the screws.* It senses a higher density, so you might be able to place it along the window frane where there are no screws, calibrate it, then search along the frame for a screw.*
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03-25-2012, 11:29 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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RE: Removing front window
Greetings,
Question...Since you're going to have to re-paint over the new screws anyway, what's the reason you don't just sand off the paint all around the top of the molding so you can actually SEE the plugs or filling material?
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03-25-2012, 04:53 PM
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Hospitality Officer
City: Pittwater
Vessel Name: Sarawana
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RE: Removing front window
Quote:
RT Firefly wrote:
Greetings,
Question...Since you're going to have to re-paint over the new screws anyway, what's the reason you don't just sand off the paint all around the top of the molding so you can actually SEE the plugs or filling material?
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*That is a far too sensible a question. I guess I was trying to take the*glass out, leaving as much of the old painted frame intact as I could.
Now I have 'fessed up'(as you on the*other side of the Pacific are fond of saying) I hear my old dad's admonition "Andy, don't take shortcuts, it will only *end in tears".
So, I will shake out the bats, don my trusty airconditioned industrial hat, and break out the sander.I might use the stud finder though.
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03-25-2012, 07:49 PM
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Guru
City: Diberville Mississippi
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RE: Removing front window
That's the spirit! Please keep us posted. I also have a front glass to replace.
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03-25-2012, 08:14 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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RE: Removing front window
D'oh!!!
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