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Old 10-03-2016, 01:45 PM   #21
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Since 75% of my brightwork is tight to the hull the only way I could get covers to stay put would be to add many snaps, on both sides of the cap rail.
My cap rails are located on top of the bulwarks. However, my canvas covers are held in place by snaps. That's the way to go regardless of whether your bright work is flush with the hull or not.

I wouldn't add anything to my varnish except more varnish about every six months. That's part of owning a boat with exposed wood! ...just my opinion, of course. You could always paint your cap rails.
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No problem to clean it off if going to refinish. Scrub with dish soap, rinse. And then wet sand and rinse. Nothing will survive that. Hopefully you wont have to refinish, that's the whole idea using it at least for me, less wood work.
Ignore the idea your putting it on wood, your actually putting it on a plastic finish. The stuff is designed to protect plastic surfaces.
I'm guessing you haven't done much varnish or paint work.
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You have Awlgrip as the topcoat. Surely it needs nothing more.
A recent thread discussed putting wax on Awlgrip, and some contributors disputed that being OK for the Awlgrip, as AG itself is supposed to be the answer. Surely that applies to clear as well as opaque AG.

Talk first to the Awlgrip folks.
http://www.awlgrip.com/MPYACMDatashe...6-4-eng-A4.pdf

http://www.awlgrip.com/products/main...e/awlcare.aspx
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We just returned from TrawlerFest in Baltimore/Annapolis (a bit of rain). On the newer Fleming boats the cap and hand rails looked beautiful - asked how they stay that way - its Burrwood (their word?), or composite material, not teak. Said to just wax it about once a year and you are good to go. Not as bright as newly refinished teak, a bit browner, but still beautiful. Wonder if you can get composite caps and rails for older boats?
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Oh, and we were also there to visit our daughter and her husband :-). She competed in the Baltimore Triathlon on Sat morning, where she came in third overall among women (and 12th overall including men!)
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We just returned from TrawlerFest in Baltimore/Annapolis (a bit of rain). On the newer Fleming boats the cap and hand rails looked beautiful - asked how they stay that way - its Burrwood (their word?), or composite material, not teak. Said to just wax it about once a year and you are good to go. Not as bright as newly refinished teak, a bit browner, but still beautiful. Wonder if you can get composite caps and rails for older boats?
New Fleming 78'.
Is that what you meant ?
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Old 10-03-2016, 03:35 PM   #27
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Our teak cap rails were finished by the dealer when she was a new stock boat.
Since then we've had them refinished twice, and most recently with an Awlgrip 3-part acrylic on top of 12 coats of varnish, and they look great!

My question is, is there any type of wax or other protectant that I can apply to shield the brightwork from the harsh, south Florida sun rays?

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You have Awlgrip as the topcoat. Surely it needs nothing more.
A recent thread discussed putting wax on Awlgrip, and some contributors disputed that being OK for the Awlgrip, as AG itself is supposed to be the answer. Surely that applies to clear as well as opaque AG.

Talk first to the Awlgrip folks.
You should probably double check exactly which Awlgrip system was used - many folks use Awlgrip when in fact the brand includes at least 3 distinct systems -
- Awlgrip (a polyester urethane)
- Awlcraft 2000 (a acrylic urethane)
- Awlwood (not sure what this one is??)

Awlgrip & Awlcraft are typically used over gelcoat (e.g. hull finishing) but it looks like they can be applied over their epoxy primer on wood

Acrylic sounds like Awlcraft but that is not recommended for brush or roller application - was your sprayed?

Awlgrip clear epoxy prime
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See So what is the difference between the AwlGrip and AwlCraft resins?

If yours is Awlgrip they do not recommend buffing nor use of wax - they have some specific care instructions.

I have used the Awlcare polymer polish on my Awlcraft finished hull with very good results
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:15 PM   #28
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I think if I had sunbrella covers what will happen, I would never take them off.
If I fit sunbrella covers to my rails, how can I protect the sunbrella from the elements? If I find something to cover and protect the sunbrella, that`s going to need protecting....
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We had some sunbrella cover on cap rails on OA and are some happy to have no varnish on the Terranova .... so happy !!!
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I'm guessing you haven't done much varnish or paint work.
Yes I have done a lot of painting and clear coating.
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rail caps

here we go.
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On Klee Wyck, I have canvas on the bulwark rail cap and only take them off once or twice a year. I normally cruise with them on unless I have some specific reason to show off the teak.
I painted and varnished enough when I was young to know a couple of things about it, i.e. I don't like to do it and I am not good at it.
On Libra, painted steel caps, stainless rails and the only exterior wood is the doors.
We will see which requires less time to care for. Still being busy with work and worry, maintenance time comes directly out of boating time and boating time is precious.
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On Klee Wyck, I have canvas on the bulwark rail cap and only take them off once or twice a year. I normally cruise with them on unless I have some specific reason to show off the teak.
I painted and varnished enough when I was young to know a couple of things about it, i.e. I don't like to do it and I am not good at it.
On Libra, painted steel caps, stainless rails and the only exterior wood is the doors.
We will see which requires less time to care for. Still being busy with work and worry, maintenance time comes directly out of boating time and boating time is precious.
Congrats on getting Libra to her new home!! That was a labor of lust
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Thanks Mark, indeed it was. Good to have it behind me!
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Yes I have done a lot of painting and clear coating.
Professionally ?
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Professionally ?
No, but having a wood boat you can understand I have done a lot of painting and clear coating, inside and outside. And have owned it since 1998.
I don't think my wood is any different from other people's wood.

I have also finished many pieces of wood furniture over decades. I am pretty good with wood.

Regarding wood and refinishing, nothing scares me, I just do what is needed, and like to try different things.
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No, but having a wood boat you can understand I have done a lot of painting and clear coating, inside and outside. And have owned it since 1998.
I don't think my wood is any different from other people's wood.

I have also finished many pieces of wood furniture over decades. I am pretty good with wood.

Regarding wood and refinishing, nothing scares me, I just do what is needed, and like to try different things.

I too like to try different things/technics. But I've also seen the results of trying to paint/varnish a surface that has lots of contamination on it. So I'm a bit leery of using 303 on "varnished" wood.
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On Klee Wyck, I have canvas on the bulwark rail cap and only take them off once or twice a year. I normally cruise with them on unless I have some specific reason to show off the teak.
I painted and varnished enough when I was young to know a couple of things about it, i.e. I don't like to do it and I am not good at it.
On Libra, painted steel caps, stainless rails and the only exterior wood is the doors.
We will see which requires less time to care for. Still being busy with work and worry, maintenance time comes directly out of boating time and boating time is precious.
What very nice boats !
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A number of years ago I called the mfg of 303 to ask if it was "safe" to apply to varnished/Awlgrip coated teak. The reply was"we don't know." As far as canvas goes, I through all of mine away years ago. What a pain they were and what a relief to get rid of it.
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Varnish them !
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