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Old 05-27-2016, 11:55 AM   #41
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Keep in mind the primary purpose of paint is to protect the fiberglass, not to make it purdy. Many times when time weather is short I have just protected and not worry about how it looked. Seattle rains 10 months per year and the 2 months has periods of rain. Besides the average person will not see notice slight imperfections.

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Old 05-27-2016, 02:09 PM   #42
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Mr. 11. Of course it's old news but when a company like Awlgrip experiences major problems, one has to wonder whether the problems have been addressed or simply the painters have learned to adapt to and live with the shortcomings.
They've been addressed.
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Old 05-28-2016, 07:54 AM   #43
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The PO's were liveaboards and had dogs so they put up this safety net. At first we were going to leave it, but it's just too ugly. When I first saw the pictures of the boat I thought it was chain link fence!
Anyhow, at some point we're going to have to deal with all the eyebolts screwed in to hold it.
Every one of them is a potential water intrusion spot I would imagine.

My thought is to just leave them there until Arvin gets back and can fix them correctly.

What say you all?
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Old 05-28-2016, 07:56 AM   #44
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Another reason to remove it is that there are two sections where it's no good and ripped. I didn't get a picture of that though.
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Old 05-28-2016, 09:48 AM   #45
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I'd leave it or just the hardware in place until either Arvin gets back or you get more experience with patching and priming.
No sea dogs in your future?
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Old 05-30-2016, 12:01 AM   #46
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I'd leave it or just the hardware in place until either Arvin gets back or you get more experience with patching and priming.
No sea dogs in your future?
Nooo dogs for us! Kids are grown don't want anymore responsibility. Lol

The boat looks so much better without the netting.
For now, hardware still in place but I don't think we're going to be able to wait for Arvin to get back. I noticed a lot of them are loose.
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:28 PM   #47
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Good Afternoon Star,

I am perhaps a week or two ahead of your project. My first concern was paint removal. I've painted many cars and know a bit about application and removal. I was aghast at the thought of removing paint with paint remover. So, Cheri and I tried the heat gun approach. Worked wonderfully. (I have attached pic. You will not I started with a torch to see if the heat worked. Then went and bought a heat gun. Suggest not using a torch). At any rate, took 10 hours to remove all deck paint. Came off very clean. Don't need to burn the paint, just heat up a bit.

With regard to your sticker. If the above suggestions don't work, automotive paint stores have a rubber wheel that attaches to a drill. This is made specifically to remove bumper stickers, stripes on paint, etc. Works in seconds and no need to worry about marring the finish. It wont. Cost $5.

I hope to have our decks painted by this weekend??? Epoxy for sure. Probably Awlgrip?
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So you just applied the heat and were able to scrape the paint right off?
I tried using a pressure washer on a small area but that didn't work very well.
I was going to try sanding next but might give the heat gun a try.
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The heat gun worked best for us. Sanding would not have worked, too thick of coats. Our boat did have two previous coats of paint on it. I'm uncertain if the paint was a two part epoxy or single stage paint. Either way, It was relatively fast and somewhat rewarding. Cheri was in front of me and heated an area up and I scraped with a quality putty knife/scraper. She would back up and I would move forward. Also suggest knee pads for both and leather gloves for the person scraping. Best of fortune and blessings
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Hoping to get to working on paint removal this weekend.

My new question is about non skid paint. All of the molded non skid areas on our deck are well worn and quite slippery when wet. So I've read about kiwigrip, interlux interdek, evercoat skid no more, and awlgrip with non skid added.

From what I understand all of those are one parts with the exception of awlgrip?

Can I use one of these products to paint over that worn molded non skid? Do they require primer first?

I know I don't want a very aggressive looking texture and it needs to be comfy on bare feet and bare butts.

Are there any other paint suggestions besides those mentioned? I know I don't want to go the spreading sand method.
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I did Kiwi Grip, tough as nails, flexible enough to span hairline fractures. Unforunately it is a dirt magnet and looks 30 years old within a few weeks, extremely difficult to clean and has to be scrubbed almost daily. I used a tight foam roller so the texture was quite light. Won't use it again.
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I did Kiwi Grip, tough as nails, flexible enough to span hairline fractures. Unforunately it is a dirt magnet and looks 30 years old within a few weeks, extremely difficult to clean and has to be scrubbed almost daily. I used a tight foam roller so the texture was quite light. Won't use it again.
I read where some people suggested putting some type of wax on it to prevent the dirt from sticking..did you do that?
Our white decks now need to be at least hosed off pretty much every time you step foot on the boat. Can't keep it clean for nothing!
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I read where some people suggested putting some type of wax on it to prevent the dirt from sticking..did you do that?
Our white decks now need to be at least hosed off pretty much every time you step foot on the boat. Can't keep it clean for nothing!
Hadn't heard of the wax thing .... sounds a bit self defeating.
What kind of wax ?
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Hadn't heard of the wax thing .... sounds a bit self defeating.
What kind of wax ?
I think someone mentioned "woody's"? And I saw the words surfboard wax.
Does seem self defeating...I agree.
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I think someone mentioned "woody's"? And I saw the words surfboard wax.
Does seem self defeating...I agree.

well I suppose if they use it on surf boards .... not much surfing here in Ontario
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PO used Interlux on my boat - think it's in its fourth season now and I am really pleased with it. Good grip, durable and easy to clean.

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PO used Interlux on my boat - think it's in its fourth season now and I am really pleased with it. Good grip, durable and easy to clean.

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I think someone mentioned "woody's"? And I saw the words surfboard wax.
Does seem self defeating...I agree.
Woody Wax is the product. I used it on my center console fishing boat and it works great. Easy to apply and relatively inexpensive. Helps to prevent staining from fish/bait/bird dropping splatter as well as not slippery when dry. I have not put it on the trawler deck yet but plan to.

I have no interest in the product just a satisfied user. YMMV

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Please keep us informed of your progress. As you can see, Cheri and I now have the entire decks scraped. It took a week of evenings to do. We found that the warmer the weather, the easier the scraping is with the heat gun. Also, "there is no economy in buying cheap paint". I am curious to find what you use for paint. Epoxy paint (two part/w catalyst) will be a harder finish and arguably last longer, but more difficult to apply. But, given the amount of work the job entails in the first place, we don't want to ever do it again. Have a safe weekend. - sam
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