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Old 05-26-2016, 01:47 PM   #21
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Just like others have said here . Spend the time on the prep and prime . If you do go the roll and tip way you have to move the paint quick and keep the edge wet . We painted our cabin sides and deck with plenty of prep , one coat primer and two coats Brightside . We are in a covered slip . Outside in the open would be tough .
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Old 05-26-2016, 04:13 PM   #22
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So I'm liking the idea of trying to do the bulk of the prepwork and priming and then let him finish it when he comes back.
That sounds like a great idea. The prep work is the hard work.

However, as others have mentioned, the prep work is very important for how the final job will look. This can put the painter in a tough spot. He doesn't want his job to look bad by putting the final coat over a sub-par prepped surface. One option is to do the prep and priming, and then let him do the final sanding before painting with the understanding that the two of you will agree on what areas he will need to fix up before the final coat goes on.

Marty: You did a very nice job on William.
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That sounds like a great idea. The prep work is the hard work.

However, as others have mentioned, the prep work is very important for how the final job will look. This can put the painter in a tough spot. He doesn't want his job to look bad by putting the final coat over a sub-par prepped surface. One option is to do the prep and priming, and then let him do the final sanding before painting with the understanding that the two of you will agree on what areas he will need to fix up before the final coat goes on.

Marty: You did a very nice job on William.
Thanks Dave . The problem with priming and waiting to paint for a while is that primer alone doesn't weather very well . Your painter will more than likely want to prime again before painting .
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Thanks Dave . The problem with priming and waiting to paint for a while is that primer alone doesn't weather very well . Your painter will more than likely want to prime again before painting .
Good to know. I would have thought two coats of primer, leaving the second unsanded, would hold up ok for a few months, but maybe not.

I have to admit that the only time we painted a glass boat I conveniently was really busy. My folks did most of the work themselves, in the winter, under a plastic tarp on the hard. They did a great job however, putting Awlgrip on a Cal 29 hull.
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Before deciding on a paint, check out the latest reviews of Awlgrip. I know some years back they changed their formulation and had no end of troubles with application by professional painters well versed in the use of Awlgrip. I vaguely recall a mega yacht that experienced an Awlgrip failure and had to be repainted to the tune of ?millions of $$. (which Awlgrip paid for).

I used Alexseal products both for prep work and final finish. Their fairing compound is very nice to use.
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Star, you're my kind of woman ! You sound like my beautiful Sharon who has learned to prep, paint, install windows, winterize engines, replace impellers, repair hydraulic systems and she even lets me drive the boat once in a while . Take heart from Our New Boat project.
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Before deciding on a paint, check out the latest reviews of Awlgrip. I know some years back they changed their formulation and had no end of troubles with application by professional painters well versed in the use of Awlgrip. I vaguely recall a mega yacht that experienced an Awlgrip failure and had to be repainted to the tune of ?millions of $$. (which Awlgrip paid for).

I used Alexseal products both for prep work and final finish. Their fairing compound is very nice to use.
That is old news.

But there are perhaps better paint choices for a DYI'er to roll and tip than Awlgrip.
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Please send me ARVIN number, he can start painting my 45 right now for that price !!
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Star, you're my kind of woman ! You sound like my beautiful Sharon who has learned to prep, paint, install windows, winterize engines, replace impellers, repair hydraulic systems and she even lets me drive the boat once in a while . Take heart from Our New Boat project.

Love it! Now I fully admit I don't intend to go that far but I imagine I'll pick up a few things along the way. I do definitely intend to learn to drive the boat...doubt I will ever feel confident enough to try and dock it though.
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When he comes back in 4 months and finishes mine you can come take a look at it and see if you like his work.
He's leaving Monday. I'll have pics of my windows and newly painted stripe as soon as he's done with them.
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Greetings,
Mr. 11. Of course it's old news but when a company like Awlgrip experiences major problems, one has to wonder whether the problems have been addressed or simply the painters have learned to adapt to and live with the shortcomings.
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Now that my photos are synced up to my iPad I can post some of them.

Can anyone tell me why it's not letting me upload more than one picture at a time? I see other people posting several at a time. Is it because I'm on an iPad?

Sideways pic again...you can see the really terrible job someone did slapping some paint on the transom door.
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And the really really bad tape job someone did painting the stripe. The other side looks great...this side, maybe they had too many beers by that point or something.
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You can see how they painted up to the canvas and stopped.
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Old 05-27-2016, 07:34 AM   #35
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Same here...they painted around the canvas.
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You can see the paint peeling off
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And this is one of the really really bad patch jobs
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This is the top of the transom door....did they just run out of paint?
I mean, who does this?
(It wasn't the guy we bought the boat from btw...it was the owner before him)
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And again....just randomly stopped painting.
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Hmm. Star, I think maybe the last person to paint this thing might have been someone a bit like yourself, that is, brave enough (or cheap enough) to try it, but perhaps didn't have the benefit of observing a terrible paint job before he or she started it. That person may have not had the benefit (but probably didn't care about the benefit) of anybody's Forum advice. Now, you've got both the perspective and the advice. Can hardly wait to see the spiffy new paint job!
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