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Old 01-09-2016, 12:40 PM   #41
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It was nothing to do with steering or the engines so no need to waste your armchair theorizing on those. Or the legal system.
Well, you said "It stemmed from a weakness in the boat's mechanical design and snowballed from there". And there aren't that many "mechanical" systems on that boat. Gerr's "Boat Mechanical Systems Handbook" lists these sections:
  • Drivetrain Installations
  • Fuel Systems
  • Exhaust Systems
  • Rudders and Steering Systems
  • Ventilation, Air Conditioning, and Heating
  • Plumbing Systems with notes on Fire Suppression
  • Anchoring Systems

I know you love working our your heads yourself - and those can be a huge system to fully renovate or replace - and I can certainly see uses for tape - but...ok, I suppose a failure would be a "very bad situation". But a sea trial? I don't see it for a plumbing issue. Or a blower. And I think you said you don't have a furnace. Fuel tanks - that's hardly an obscure issue - it's the #1 concern with every GB of that vintage.



Holy cow, that leaves...anchoring systems!
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:50 PM   #42
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Maybe it's just another CGI.
Hmmm...has anyone ever actually seen Marin?
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What does Coast Guard Intelligence (CGI) have to do with Marin????

Oh........now I get it!!!!

and why so hush...hush....
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Old 01-09-2016, 01:17 PM   #44
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and why so hush...hush....
It's called trolling. He's been not so subtly dropping this bait for months waiting for someone to start a thread about it.
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Old 01-09-2016, 01:19 PM   #45
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I still have my secret decoder ring...I'll email CGI for the facts (as the government understands them)!
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It's called trolling. He's been not so subtly dropping this bait for months.
It's also entertaining as evidenced by how hard the fish go at the bait.
It's still winter on parts of the west coast; what's everyone else's excuse?
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Old 01-09-2016, 01:33 PM   #48
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I am going with shaft logs/stern tubes!!!
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I am going with shaft logs/stern tubes!!!
I think you may be on the right track. I previously wrote:
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...it's either steering (including rudders) or propulsion (including cooling, shafts, etc).
And Marin responded with:
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It was nothing to do with steering or the engines...
Notice the difference? I wrote "propulsion" and he said "not engine". So it could be shafts/glands/tubes. In fact, if it's not steering (which I would say includes the rudders), then it does sound like shafts.

Or anchor system!
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I am going with shaft logs/stern tubes!!!

I've mentioned that more than once and got no denial so will continue to believe it makes the most logical sense, given all the other "nopes" and clever evasive wording...
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It was nothing to do with steering or the engines so no need to waste your armchair theorizing on those. Or the legal system.
...shaft logs are not part of the engines.

What do you suppose he's sipping at, as he laughs through all this, pondering the next segment?
Latte?
Chai Tea?
King of Scotts?
Cow Piss (aka US beer)?
Or the ultimate product of marketing genius, Starbucks?
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Old 01-09-2016, 01:57 PM   #51
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...then it does sound like shafts.
Talked about at length on IAGBO and as every dog knows, easily remedied with Rescue Tape.
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Old 01-09-2016, 02:09 PM   #53
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This is what's happening!
HAHAHA!!! Good job!!! Not Healhustler quality but damn good!!!!
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A marine machinist mentioned that GB have a well know shaft strut alignment problem. He indicated this has created various area of damage to the cutless, the log, the shaft, the strut and/or several of these in combination. I do not know Marin's problem but the misaligned shaft strut is a known problem. The machinist said that on a haul out survey he always turns the props and if there is any drag or uneven feel he recommends checking the strut alignment. Additionally on some boats the structure of the hull is not strong enough to keep the alignment place. The alignment is made out of the water and when the boat is splashed the hull flex between the log and the strut is significant. Newer boats have better hull structure and shaft alignment.
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I started the thread because I was genuinely interested. Sorry now I did, time for a TF hiatus methinks...

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I started the thread because I was genuinely interested. Sorry now I did, time for a TF hiatus methinks...

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Yes, you did and I explained why I was not going to answer it which should have been the end of it right there.

Unfortunately it is the nature of forums like this to blow virtually everything totally of propotion to ridiculous lengths, which is why I never discuss anything that actually matters on them.

With regards to dhmeissner"s original question, I'm not trying to bait anyone (sorry, Walt). I mentioned the fact that our boat's been laid up a few times because its being out of service was relevant to whatever I was writing about at the time.

It's a very old boat, and like all old boats, it has had a number of problems over the 17-plus years we've had it. Some have been serious, most not so much.

But I NEVER bring these up at the time on this forum because we have long since learned that, while we'll get all kinds of suggestions and theorizing and opinions, none of them are credible enough to act on and most of them are inaccurate, don't apply to our situation, are pure specuation or guesses, or are, we later learn, simply wrong.

Forums like this are great entertainment and they can be useful as was just demonstrated by a poster needing to find a good surveyor in Bellingham. A couple of us familiar with the subject offered suggestions and it sounds like the poster is on his way toward meeting his need.

But for stuff that really matters to us, like finding and fixing a serious problem with our boat, there is absolutely no value in discussing it here. Not when we have truly knowledgeable, experienced, and most important, credible resources a phone call away.

And, of course, we talked about the situation with friends who know something or a lot about boats and their systems and who might have had-- or did have on occasion-- something of value to say or at least helped keep our spirits up when things were at their most frustrating.

Personally I think this thread should be closed as it is providing nothing of value but is simply fueling a lot of silly speculation that will never be resolved because I am never going to describe or discuss the event here for the reasons I have given several times now.

But silly speculation is the nature of forums like this and closing threads is not part of my job description.
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