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02-08-2017, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member
City: Panama City Beach
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hot water heater
Anyone replace the hot water heater with a tankless system? Mine started leaking and it looks impossible to get it out without major work.
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02-08-2017, 07:55 PM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishpcb
Anyone replace the hot water heater with a tankless system? Mine started leaking and it looks impossible to get it out without major work.
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Home or boat?
A tankless system runs off gas if I am not mistaken. Do you have the gas set up that would allow that?
Frankly, I have never heard of a tankless system on a boat.
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02-08-2017, 08:17 PM
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City: Quebec
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Home or boat?
A tankless system runs off gas if I am not mistaken. Do you have the gas set up that would allow that?
Frankly, I have never heard of a tankless system on a boat.
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There are some electrical but very high wattage.
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02-08-2017, 08:24 PM
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Senior Member
City: PNW
Vessel Name: Lady A
Vessel Model: Defever 44
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Water Heater
A tankless system for marine use would be a hydronic heating system with the option of heating water on demand with no tank.
I just installed on on my boat. ITR Hurricane System.
Bill
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02-08-2017, 08:24 PM
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City: Panama City Beach
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This is for the boat. West Marine sells a couple different ones.
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02-08-2017, 08:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishpcb
This is for the boat. West Marine sells a couple different ones.
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Can you post a link. I would like to look at that.
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02-08-2017, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member
City: Tasmania
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We see quite a lot of gas tankless systems on house boats around here. The people who have them love them.
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02-08-2017, 08:58 PM
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City: Jacksonville
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I had one in my last house, and yes they are great. But I also had a 500 gallon propane tank buried in the yard!
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02-08-2017, 11:02 PM
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City: Birch bay wa
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I have had 2, on 2 different boats. Not on the current boat. They were propane fueled, and they both worked well. One was a Paloma, with a pilot light and vented. The other was self igniting when it sensed water flow and ventless. Neither used any electricity. Concerns with them the same as with any propane fired device. Coast Guard and insurance companies don't think highly of them. These were smaller boats, so when using hot water, you were aware of the hazards, both had solonoids on propane supply and was only on when needing hot water. DS
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02-09-2017, 05:50 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
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02-09-2017, 08:18 AM
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City: North Charleston, SC
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"hot water heater"
Why would you need to heat hot water?
One of the advantages of conventional water heaters on boats is the ability to heat water with excess engine heat. If I'm cruising and anchor for the night, I have plenty of free hot water. It's still pretty hot the next morning. And at the dock on shore power, the electric heating element is pure simplicity.
Keep this in mind before changing things.
BTW: Make sure whatever you install is ABYC approved and the installation meets ABYC requirements. This is going to be very difficult with propane, a snap with a standard electric water heater.
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02-09-2017, 09:33 AM
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City: River Trent
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WesK has made a very valid point.
It's not as if the additional weight of a hot water tank is an issue on a displacement boat, so I really can't see any advantage whatsoever in going to a tankless system.
Plus, from my experience with tankless systems it takes ages running the tap before the water finally starts to come through warm, then eventually hot. Limited water resource (i.e. total water tank volume) is a far bigger issue on a boat than the extra weight of a hot water tank - another reason why I would consider tankless impractical on a boat (I'm no fan of them in domestic systems either).
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02-09-2017, 09:44 AM
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City: Gig Harbor
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I have a tankless water heater at home and love it. It is economical to operate and gives as much hot water as desired. The only delay getting hot water to the tap is the length of the pipes from the install location and the tap.
I agree with Wes though. After cruising for a couple hours we have plenty of hot water for showers and dishes through the next morning.
I think it may be worth the hassle of removing and replacing your existing hot water tank instead of re plumbing and installing a tankless.
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02-09-2017, 09:56 AM
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Senior Member
City: Panama City Beach
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West marine no longer sells the tankless. It didn't last much more than a year is what they said.
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02-09-2017, 09:59 AM
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City: Panama City Beach
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I will be putting in a regular marine hot water heater after reading the comments. The one I have is in a very tight spot and will have to take engine exhaust off just to get it out. I still think I will have it in and out in less than a half day so not that bad.
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02-09-2017, 10:38 AM
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City: Gig Harbor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishpcb
I will be putting in a regular marine hot water heater after reading the comments. The one I have is in a very tight spot and will have to take engine exhaust off just to get it out. I still think I will have it in and out in less than a half day so not that bad.
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You work a whole lot faster than I do.
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02-09-2017, 11:10 AM
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ANd don't forget....it is usually a tank shrouded in stainless and insulation. You might be able to take the heater assembly apart to take it out. Obviously getting it back in might be an issue.
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02-09-2017, 11:41 AM
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City: Panama City Beach
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Yep. Looks like will have to take the old round one apart to get it out. The new one will be square and will go back a little easier according to measurements.
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02-09-2017, 11:47 AM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishpcb
Yep. Looks like will have to take the old round one apart to get it out. The new one will be square and will go back a little easier according to measurements.
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Consider your hot water needs and maybe go smaller??? That is exactly what I did. My old one was just 6 gallons and I was ALMOST able to get it out without taking it apart. But take it apart I did. I went back in with a 5 gallon one and it slid right in.
Remember, these things got hot as hell and a little bit of hot water goes a long way. I have never run out of hot water on ANY boat that I have owned.
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02-09-2017, 12:07 PM
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Senior Member
City: Panama City Beach
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Do you have the round or square water heater?
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