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Old 03-27-2013, 03:05 PM   #21
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You have a name to recommend? We're on the Freemont cut.
Greg, Professional Dive Service - 206-723-4857 cell 206-724-8128. Use my phone if you dare! We been neighbors/friends since we bought the boat, 18 years. Delta Marina uses him quite a bit.
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:15 PM   #22
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Same. I like to just keep tabs on what is going on under there.
A good diver will tell you that. I have to have my boat bottom and especially running gear cleaned every month, probably should go to three weeks in summer. We just pulled the boat to do some work on the exhaust system, came up clean as a whistle. About 5 guys asked me, who's your diver?
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:48 AM   #23
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Our vessel is in San Diego and we get a max of five years between haul-outs. The wacko-eviros are pushin' for a non-copper bottom paint but do not have a viable alternative. We have a diver clean the hull once a month.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:38 AM   #24
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Annually haul outs is what we'll be doing.
As often as required dose it for me
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:45 AM   #25
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I tend to get three years here in Queensland with Micron Extra, and Propspeed on well..the prop. Depending on haulout this winter I might have it put on the rudder as well.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:32 AM   #26
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Depends on your location. I have a diver who checks the hull twice a year and replaces the zinks as needed. Boat US doesn't require surveys very often, over ten years now, so no urgency to haulout in that regard. On average, I usually go 5 years between haulouts and use an ablative paint. In my experience, it's not a good idea to clean an ablative painted hull. Wears out the paint more quickly and contaminates of the boat harbor.

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Old 05-21-2013, 10:54 AM   #27
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Depends on your location. ..... In my experience, it's not a good idea to clean an ablative painted hull. Wears out the paint more quickly and contaminates of the boat harbor.

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Of course on the Great Lakes boats get hauled every season. As far as I was able to determine, the only paints that would reactivate the anti-fouling feature after a haulout are ablatives. So we painted the bottom with Micron Extra. Most storage facilities/yards in our area power wash after the haulout in the Fall. The low person on the yard's totem pole wields the wand. After watching these unfortunate and inexperienced souls knock off a hundred dollars worth of bottom paint within a few minutes....I became the exclusive wielder of the wand...the low man on the totem pole. If you're very careful you can blow off the crud and only lose a minimal amount of paint. I completed the third bottom cleaning last year and the ablative still looked good (two layers of black ablative over one layer of red hard bottom paint as a guide coat).
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:09 PM   #28
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Don't know about SoCal, but down here it seems the rule of thumb is every 2-3 years depending. I have a diver do zincs and a wipe down every 6 months or so. We talk after each event. Using Trinidad bottom paint. I'll probably haul the old girl later this summer and redo bottom paint at approximately 30 months. 80-85 degree water promotes a lot of growth and critters.

The best bet, as others have already stated, is to see what intervals seem to work for other boaters in your area with similar equipment. Talk is pretty cheap around the marina, but, if you listen critically, you'll soon figure out who knows what they're talking about and who's blowing smoke.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:22 PM   #29
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Annually (even though the boating season is twelve months long). If nothing else to check on hull and zinc "health" and bottom painting if needed.

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With a timber hull I'll haul out every 12 minths - there's a lot to keep an eye out for!
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:16 PM   #31
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Moored in Laconner WA. The channel has brackish water which gives a pretty long life to bottom paint. Previous owner had 2 coats plus a 3rd along the water line of ablative in 2008. Our diver cleans the bottom 3 times a year and says I would be wasting my money by repainting now. States that he will tell me when it's time.
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Thanks Dave,
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FYI to all who believe otherwise- anti fouling paint has a lifespan, and it is typically 2-3 years. That's the length of time these products are designed to last. Beyond that, they have leached out enough of their biocide to become essentially ineffective. Some of you claiming dramatically longer performance from your paint probably either boat in areas where fouling is very low, or you simply do not realise how foul your bottom actually is becoming between cleanings.
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:21 AM   #35
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Clean bottoms are Fast Bottoms!

Clean propellers are efficient propellers.

Given the choice a smooth prop out trumps a smooth bottom perhaps 2-1
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Given the choice a smooth prop out trumps a smooth bottom perhaps 2-1
The question is; why would you allow your boat to have one without the other?
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FYI to all who believe otherwise- anti fouling paint has a lifespan, and it is typically 2-3 years. That's the length of time these products are designed to last. Beyond that, they have leached out enough of their biocide to become essentially ineffective. Some of you claiming dramatically longer performance from your paint probably either boat in areas where fouling is very low, or you simply do not realise how foul your bottom actually is becoming between cleanings.
From decades of experience docking solely in salt water (Atlantic and Pacific)... as such bottoms needing often cleaning as well as yearly or bi yearly at longest new bottom paint... then for last four years docking in completely fresh water... I agree with fb, i.e. "Some of you [us] claiming dramatically longer performance from your [our] paint probably - boat in areas where fouling is very low..." Having never kept a boat in fresh water before, and experiencing the last four years doing so, my dive under boat this Memorial Day for cleaning metal parts, wire brushing zincs, and soft brushing the bottom was further proof that in freshwater (not salt water) can greatly extend the duration between need for new bottom paints. After six (6) months since I last went under to clean the metal parts had little growth attached, zincs were not too coated, and hull had a bare skim on its surface. Intake grates were still well open too. Iíve not seen any barnacle or other growths in the four years. I do like the ease-on-boat submerged portions of docking and operating in freshwater only. Major ease on engine raw water cooling parts too!
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The question is; why would you allow your boat to have one without the other?

At our dock, ALLIGATORS can be 12 to 14 ft.
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The question is; why would you allow your boat to have one without the other?

At our dock, ALLIGATORS can be 12 to 14 ft.
Well, there is that.
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