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03-19-2017, 01:34 AM
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eBay three strand?
I noticed yesterday that some of my permanent dock lines are stating to get a bit too chafed for even my rather high tolerance. Some I can cut and simply make shorter, but some others are going to need to be replaced. I like to use nylon three strand for the stretch and can easily splice them myself.
I really don't want to spend more than a $1/foot for the line and can fine some cheap line on ebay. It is definitely "budget" quality but I have doubts that I could spend twice the money and have the line last twice as long. While we do get some big storms on occasion, my harbor is pretty well protected and I am in a slip with fingers on both sides so I am pretty secure.
So, what are your thoughts on cheap line and do any of you know a good source for inexpensive nylon three strand?
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03-19-2017, 01:42 AM
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Maybe provide a link to the ebay advt. Even if it seems cheap, and on ebay,the quality can be fine.
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03-19-2017, 02:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Maybe provide a link to the ebay advt. Even if it seems cheap, and on ebay,the quality can be fine.
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Here is an example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-Inch-x-6...FWhVl~&vxp=mtr
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03-19-2017, 05:27 AM
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City: Seaford Va on Poquoson River, VA
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03-19-2017, 06:55 AM
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That company has a website with a dealer locator. You could at least go see the quality of the line before buying it.
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03-19-2017, 07:55 AM
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City: Seaford Va on Poquoson River, VA
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I bought 100 feet of 3 strand 1/2 inch from rope king off amazon a few years ago. It was fine. I use it as another anchor line with a small danforth.
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03-19-2017, 08:13 AM
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I had never heard of Rope King but looking it up online it appears to be a real rope manufacturer based in Ohio. The ONLY thing I have bought off Ebay that was not what I expected was rope. I bought a 600' spool of 3/8 nylon that turned out to be some kind of extremely cheap poly (Not even sure really) it formed hockles coming off the spool and it was downhill from there.
Ken
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03-19-2017, 12:22 PM
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City: New Tazewell
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I scrounged up some used fire hose at the local FD to help with line chafe. But I've always tried to purchase the best line available, and try to obtain a discount by buying a bulk reel at a time - even getting a few other boats to make the purchase all at the same time might save you a buck or two.
https://www.jamestowndistributors.co...nd+Anchor+Line
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03-19-2017, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sdowney717
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West specifies Samson 5/8" breaking strength as 12,000#. Home Depot says their stuff "load limit" = 1,200#. Not sure that is the same thing, but I'd be wary.
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03-19-2017, 01:18 PM
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City: Seaford Va on Poquoson River, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaProf
West specifies Samson 5/8" breaking strength as 12,000#. Home Depot says their stuff "load limit" = 1,200#. Not sure that is the same thing, but I'd be wary.
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Yes curious, but likely key punch operator dropped a digit?
Here is their contact number.
Rope King USA - 440-498-1648 - 30255 Solon Industrial Parkway, Solon, OH 44139
When I looked into buying mine, I read of some complaints on amazon, yet I thought the complaints more fishy, like coming from competitors. The rope I got looked great, felt great, seemed to be everything you will expect from 3 strand rope and so far works great as an anchor line. All 100 feet I examined saw no flaws.
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03-19-2017, 02:29 PM
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Actually all of the Rope King ropes seem to spec load limit at roughly 10% of what I would expect the breaking strength of the size would be. I also noticed that all their ropes state nylon-polyester blend and that they float.
Ken
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03-19-2017, 02:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kchace
Actually all of the Rope King ropes seem to spec load limit at roughly 10% of what I would expect the breaking strength of the size would be. I also noticed that all their ropes state nylon-polyester blend and that they float.
Ken
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When you said they all float, you made me look back and see what I bought.
My rope does not float.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Who knows what it can hold, but it has held fine. It is not looking any different from new in 2015 when I got it. Seems every bit the same as all other 3 strand I have seen. Comments are getting pretty ragged?
I took screenshot of what I purchased.
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03-19-2017, 03:01 PM
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I wont buy rope I cant feel. Tight lay is critical to strength and durability.
I once bought some soft nylon that looked great but would hockled as soon as load was released. The better stuff seems to have a strand of poly in it that serves as a stress indicator. If it has broken the nylon has been over stressed.
Washing machine hose makes great chafe guards. For 5/8"-1" rope. Smooth inside and cheap and easy to find.
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03-19-2017, 03:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sdowney717
I bought 100 feet of 3 strand 1/2 inch from rope king off amazon a few years ago. It was fine. I use it as another anchor line with a small danforth.
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That is good feedback. Rope King is available from Home Depot and if you pick it up at the store, no shipping.
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03-19-2017, 03:12 PM
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City: Seaford Va on Poquoson River, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
That is good feedback. Rope King is available from Home Depot and if you pick it up at the store, no shipping.
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Here is a pic of my braiding it for the anchor right after I bought it.
I dropped a few tucks, but it holds. I even dipped it in white latex paint as an experiment.
I use this off the stern for a lunch anchor just for convenience. It has held even when the wind picked up and went under a lot of tension. The Danforth is real small, maybe 8 lbs, but it really can bite in and hold.
If you ordered from HD and did not like it, they would refund you.
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03-19-2017, 03:39 PM
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I'd sure make an argument for the better quality double braided line. There's nothing worse than trying to wind up a rope that twists around and just doesn't work. And when the cheap stuff fails......
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03-19-2017, 03:40 PM
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eBay three strand?
I ended up getting a 600' spool of Seachoice 5/8" Nylon three strand off eBay. $240 including shipping.
My thought is that for the price and for my use, I can hardly go wrong.
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03-19-2017, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seevee
I'd sure make an argument for the better quality double braided line. There's nothing worse than trying to wind up a rope that twists around and just doesn't work. And when the cheap stuff fails......
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Keep in mind that I am going to use it for my permanent dock lines. They don't get handled much. I splice them and have them sized for my dock and my boat. They don't get rolled up but stay laid out on the dock when not in use.
For the dock lines that I keep on the boat for traveling, I use a quality double braid.
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03-19-2017, 03:51 PM
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City: Seaford Va on Poquoson River, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
I ended up getting a 600' spool of Seachoice 5/8" Nylon three strand off eBay. $240 including shipping.
My thought is that for the price and for my use, I can hardly go wrong.
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You got great price on that line.
Prices for rope seem to be going up a lot, too much.
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03-19-2017, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sdowney717
When you said they all float, you made me look back and see what I bought.
My rope does not float.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Who knows what it can hold, but it has held fine. It is not looking any different from new in 2015 when I got it. Seems every bit the same as all other 3 strand I have seen. Comments are getting pretty ragged?
I took screenshot of what I purchased.
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Yeah, I was only going by what they showed on their web site under "Nylon Rope". It only lists load rating, not tensile strength. They have a category called "Marine Rope", but when I click on that I get nothing. So maybe they have a different spec for that?
Ken
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