1.Addressing the Grand Bank yards that poo poo on this fix, I am sure that they are the same yards that cut out the side of the boats to replace fuel tanks.
2. But So many GB owners have a propensity for spending money, and lots of it, on their boats they actually get away with such
1. Wrong again.*
2.* Another stupid assumption on your part.
Actually virtually all the pros and ex-pros on the GB boards (and everyone else on those forums) think the idea of cutting out the side of a boat to remove and replace tanks is dumb.* So far as I know, nobody on eiher of the GB forums has done it or even contemplated it.
As to GB owners all being rich, you obviously know very few GB owners, or you are simply subscribing to the same naive, dumba*s assumption so many other people believe.* The people who buy brand new GBs most certainly are rich.* But the picture changes after that* Almost all of the participants on the GB forums are DIY boaters with budgets.* This is why the forum is so valuable--- the participants are focused on maintaining and repairing their own boats to keep costs under control.* As a result, they have encountered and successfully solved virtually every boat repair and maintenance problem one can imagine,which makes them outstanding sources of knowledge not only to GB owners but to the owners of any types of boats that are similar.
There is a fellow in England who restored a wood GB32 from virtually junk condition.* He is not a professional shipwright or mechanic although he obviously has a great aptitude for both.* I have seen photos of his boat when he acquired it and photos of his boat today.* In addition to completely rebuilding the boat and its systems, he also completely tore down and overhauled the FL120 in it.* He is typical of the kind of person who particiipates on the GB forum.* He's not rich, he can't afford to have everything done by a pro.* And based on what I know and have seen of his accomplishments, I would venture to say he has forgotten more about* rebuilding, repairing, and maintaining a boat than you will ever know.
So be careful of who you slam.* Chances are they are better at doing whatever your slamming them for than you are.* The fact you've had a few articles published in boating magazines doesn't make you an expert, it just makes you published.
All I can say to someone contemplating putting a different deck surface over an existing teak deck surface is do some VERY careful research. Talk to the real pros--- not amateur boaters on a general boating forum.* Talk to people like Bob Lowe (on the GB forum) who for years owned Oak Harbor Boatworks, usually considered the prime West Coast yard for the maintenance, repair, restoration and upgrading of Grand Banks boats as well as other major brands like Fleming, deFever, Island Gypsy, etc.* Or Mike Negley, who is Bob's equivelent on the east coast.
Replacing a teak deck properly is A) time consuming, B) very expensive unless you do it yourself, and C) requires some very specific steps that need to be done exactly right.* I have seen a few boats whose owners have said how easy it was, how it was not rocket science, etc.* And in each case, their deck looked like crap.
As opposed to the Island Gypsy owner on our dock who did this.* It took him a summer and a half of work and the end result looks better than if the factory had done it, and you could probably land a plane on the deck he ended up with it is so strong.
And of course, if will depend on your own standards.* If you don't care if your deck becomes wavy or develops cracks or looks "home-made," then of course you can slap whatever you want on top of the existing teak and be happy with it.
If you want to end up with a deck that looks like it came from the factory, retains the original stiffness, complements the boat, and enhances--- or at least doesn't detract from--- the value of the boat, then talk to as many people who have done this as* you can--- pariticularly professionals, either independent shipwrights or yard owners--- and look at as many replacement decks as you can.
My own opinion is that you will find that the vast majority of successful teak deck replacements had "remove original decking" as Step One of their process.
The very nature of wood makes it move.* Not a lot. But the absorbtion of moisture and the subsequent drying out, increasing and decreasing temperatures, and the stresses it absorbs and compensates for from the twisting and flexing of the boat itself all conspire to make a teak deck a "mobile" surface.* It's why there is flexible sealant between the planks and why that sealant should be installed in a specific way, using bond-breaking tape in the bottom of the groove and so forth.* The techniques used when laying a teak deck have the goal of maintaining the watertightness of a constantly moving surface.
Given that one wants to maintain the integrity of any alternative deck surface one decides to put on the boat in place of the teak, it seems glaringly obvious to me that an important first step is to elminate that "squirmy" teak deck rather than simply put the new surface over it, particularly if that surface is more rigid and less tolerant of flexing and bending than the teak.
-- Edited by Marin on Saturday 31st of December 2011 01:51:02 PM