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12-20-2018, 11:13 AM
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Senior Member
City: SF
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Counter top options
I'm trying to decide on a refinish for the counter top in my C&L trawler. Currently its the original Formica. I would like to put something over it I think, and I'm looking for what others have done.
Obvious choice is a layer of new Formica type material, but looking for options/suggestions. I do not really want to rip counter out and redo unless there's really good reason.
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12-20-2018, 11:41 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
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I am going to use a solid surface by LG on our counters.
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12-20-2018, 12:10 PM
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"I do not really want to rip counter out and redo unless there's really good reason."
Since the Formica has worked for a decade or two perhaps if when you replace it you can make the replacement easier.
Rebuild so you undo a few trim pieces , mount the new sheet.
Then you can change it whenever , for very little cost or effort.
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12-20-2018, 12:45 PM
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Senior Member
City: Stony Point, NY
Vessel Name: VARKA
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We are having CesarStone installed in our boat. It is a highly durable man made quartz that requires no sealing or maintenance.
We installed this in our RV 3 years ago and have been extremely happy with it.
It is much brighter white in real life than what the sample shows!
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12-20-2018, 12:49 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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In the pilot house we overlaid the old Formica with new Formica. After 4 years, no problems.
In the galley and head we laid Corian over the old Formica. It’s nice to have undercounter sinks now.
Lots of options out there. From a cost standpoint, the Formica was the cheapest by a lot.
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12-20-2018, 01:13 PM
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City: Here
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Black granite with blue streaks. undermount sink. Counter is now a cutting board for scooping veggie off cuts into sink and we never worry about a hot pot melting formica again.
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12-20-2018, 01:31 PM
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Senior Member
City: Stony Point, NY
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One thing we heard from number of people during our countertop quest was that Corian actually voids the warranty if it is installed in a boat.
We had already made up our mind on the Cesarstone so didn't do much homework to check if this was actually the case or not though...
If you decide to go down the Corian route, I would make sure to get in writing that you will have coverage if the day comes that you need it.
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12-20-2018, 01:45 PM
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City: Kilmarnock VA
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I've watched several of these how-to videos and I think we're going to give it a go on our 70's vintage laminates in the galley & salon.
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12-20-2018, 02:48 PM
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City: Bellingham WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralS
One thing we heard from number of people during our countertop quest was that Corian actually voids the warranty if it is installed in a boat.
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This got my attention, having installed Corian in my galley and heads a couple years ago and it's doing fine in all respects.
If you go to www.corian.com, you'll find find Corian encourages installation in boats and mentions its attributes in a marine environment.
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12-20-2018, 03:09 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
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We have had the LG solid surface installed in a previous boat. No problem with LG having it in a boat. Only problem was trying to find an installer. Big box stores would not come out to a boat due to their insurance. Got a yacht carpenter to do it so it only cost a fortune. This time I will do the install myself since our current boat lives behind our house instead of 420 miles from home.
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12-20-2018, 03:30 PM
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Does anyone have good ideas for a LIGHT weight, but strong countertop?
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12-20-2018, 03:45 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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One of the advantages of Corian, Wilsonart, Avonite, etc. is that you won’t have seams. When we redid our galley, the counter had to go in as four pieces. The upper counter was in the way so we couldn’t just slide a solid piece in. Also the section behind the stove was only ~2” wide. With the solid surface, the seams disappear when the sections are glued together. We did have to replace the fiddles since the new counters are ~1/2” thicker.
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12-20-2018, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
City: Stony Point, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken E.
This got my attention, having installed Corian in my galley and heads a couple years ago and it's doing fine in all respects.
If you go to www.corian.com, you'll find find Corian encourages installation in boats and mentions its attributes in a marine environment.
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Happy to hear we were miss informed! Thanks for that info!
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12-20-2018, 04:04 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
We have had the LG solid surface installed in a previous boat... Only problem was trying to find an installer...
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That could be a problem since some (most) of the solid surface companies won’t sell to anyone. We got lucky. We know a shipwright who works with Corian. Still not cheap but done right.
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12-20-2018, 04:48 PM
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City: New Orleans
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Boomerang - that's of real interest. I'm in the same "boat" with my '76. Looks like a good compromise.
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12-20-2018, 05:01 PM
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City: Quebec
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I used a bamboo countertop in my boat head, sealed with epoxy and varnish, looks pretty nice and strong. I think I will use the same when it will time to replace my galley countertop or I may go with a wood countertop like elm. I like the look of wood aboard and I don't want anything like melamine laminate.
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12-20-2018, 05:03 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seevee
Does anyone have good ideas for a LIGHT weight, but strong countertop?
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If weight is the primary concern then plywood and formica is probably what you should look at. It will weigh less than a solid surface material.
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12-20-2018, 05:06 PM
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City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seevee
Does anyone have good ideas for a LIGHT weight, but strong countertop?
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May I ask why weight is a concern? Is the reason linked to transport to the boat or anything else?
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12-20-2018, 05:07 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
That could be a problem since some (most) of the solid surface companies won’t sell to anyone. We got lucky. We know a shipwright who works with Corian. Still not cheap but done right.
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Solidsurface.com sells direct to the customer. Not cheap but they are probably where I am going to get mine when I am ready to do the galley, probably next summer.
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12-21-2018, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member
City: SF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_tribal
I used a bamboo countertop in my boat head, sealed with epoxy and varnish, looks pretty nice and strong. I think I will use the same when it will time to replace my galley countertop or I may go with a wood countertop like elm. I like the look of wood aboard and I don't want anything like melamine laminate.
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I was considering wood but that will require demo If the counter top I think. I’ll probaly just go with another sheet of Formica. I need to have a close look when I take the trim off and make final decision. Thanks everyone for the ideas and product suggestions.
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