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Old 09-17-2016, 05:05 PM   #21
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You can get new sight tubes from McMaster-Carr if yours need replacement.
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Replaced mine, got it from McMaster
Just a side note mine were hard to read because of the discoloration,
But mainly because one "shrunk" and came off fitting. It was too short to reconnect.
Many people say you can use regular clear hose from a big box store, but I don't trust it, this is after all "fuel"
Always keep your valves closed when not reading tank level!
Fortunately when mine popped off the valves were closed and th only fuel in the bilge was what was in the hose. (Found on a routine check while underway in Bahamas.)
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:07 PM   #22
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When you replace the sight tubing, close the valves, remove the tubing from the top and blow into the tube slightly, keeping pressure. Unless your tank was full, you won't get diesel in your mouth. Open the bottom valve and blow the fuel into the tank, close the valve. The small amount of remaining diesel can be caught with a rag when the bottom is released.
Cleaning, as others have said, can be done with a gun cleaning rod. You lefties can buy a small rod at the hardware. A small, brightly colored, floating object can be placed in the tube to more easily see the level.
Never thought of the brightly colored floater Good Idea!
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:16 PM   #23
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Never thought of the brightly colored floater Good Idea!
reflective or glow in the dark after being hit by light might be super too....just has to survive diesel 24/7.....
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reflective or glow in the dark after being hit by light might be super too....just has to survive diesel 24/7.....
Or you could put a strip of LED lights behind the clear tubes.
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:45 PM   #25
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Never thought of the brightly colored floater Good Idea!
Sight Gauge Float Level Indicator Ball

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Or have translucent poly tanks like me and sight tube are obsolete..
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Or have translucent poly tanks like me and sight tube are obsolete..
You could put lights behind the tanks.

With the right lights you'd get a nice warm glow effect in the engine space.
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You could put lights behind the tanks.

With the right lights you'd get a nice warm glow effect in the engine space.
nah...plenty of light in the tanks.... I added lava lamps to the corners of the engine room for atmosphere along with shag carpeting and astrological signs painted on the overhead.

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Oh sorry, I was thinking of that martini bar on the stretch in Daytona Beach if it's still there....
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I'll be there next week, will check it out for you.
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Here is my port side installation, very easy to replace tubes, yours may be similar.
I am having such a difficult time posting trying to post pics. Yours are exactly like mine. Can you please tell me what you used and where to find them?

I am worried about everything being coast guard rated because of insurance. I guess I am exempt from some rules because of my size?
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The tubing is fiber reinforced clear tubing from West Marine, off of the spool in the store, about 1/2" inside diameter, whatever is on your boat now.
In my opinion the easiest way to change
close top and bottom valves, take the tubing lose at the top, if the tube is flexible lean it over to dump what diesel you can into a bucket, then, as you open the bottom valve blow into the tube to force the remaining diesel back into the tank. As soon as you see the hose is empty close the bottom valve, remove the tube and bring it to WM or other supplier to get a tube same diameter and length. be sure to get the full length, someone earlier posted their tube had shrunk and pulled off of the hose barb.
Reinstall the new tube with good hose clamps and you should be ready to go. As previously mentioned always keep top and bottom valves closed except when actually checking the fuel level.
This probably isn't an urgent project, it will be easier to do when the fuel level in the tanks is below half full. Place oil absorbent pads under the valve area before in case of spills.
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I am having such a difficult time posting trying to post pics. Yours are exactly like mine. Can you please tell me what you used and where to find them?

I am worried about everything being coast guard rated because of insurance. I guess I am exempt from some rules because of my size?
You are exempt because you are not a commercial vessel nor are you an inspected vessel.
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Donna, you are doing a great job on your boat.

One thing that I am not clear on. Do your sight tubes have a valve at both the top and bottom? Current standards call for a valve at both the top and bottom of the tube. The idea is that in the event of an engine fire the valves will keep both fuel from the tank from feeding the fire after the sight tubes finally melt or fail.

Not all boats had the upper sight tube installed, mine included. If not, this is something that your surveyor should have flagged as being a recommended change. Anyway, if you don't have an upper valve, take the opportunity to add one while you are changing the sight tube. Adding that valve is one of my winter projects.
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What about Tygonģ F-4040-A fuel line...
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Donna, you are doing a great job on your boat.

One thing that I am not clear on. Do your sight tubes have a valve at both the top and bottom? Current standards call for a valve at both the top and bottom of the tube. The idea is that in the event of an engine fire the valves will keep both fuel from the tank from feeding the fire after the sight tubes finally melt or fail.

Not all boats had the upper sight tube installed, mine included. If not, this is something that your surveyor should have flagged as being a recommended change. Anyway, if you don't have an upper valve, take the opportunity to add one while you are changing the sight tube. Adding that valve is one of my winter projects.

I do not have valves on top of the sight gauges on my boat. Where would I buy them and new hose?


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Donna, you are doing a great job on your boat.

One thing that I am not clear on. Do your sight tubes have a valve at both the top and bottom? Current standards call for a valve at both the top and bottom of the tube. The idea is that in the event of an engine fire the valves will keep both fuel from the tank from feeding the fire after the sight tubes finally melt or fail.

Not all boats had the upper sight tube installed, mine included. If not, this is something that your surveyor should have flagged as being a recommended change. Anyway, if you don't have an upper valve, take the opportunity to add one while you are changing the sight tube. Adding that valve is one of my winter projects.
Thank you! I DO have valves top and bottom. Guess I'm lucky there! I also have a Halon fire suppression system. Hoping to get one of my firefighter friends on board soon to have a look!
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I know the rules say a valve on top and bottom of sight hose, but I don't see a big deal with just having a valve on the bottom. Lots of folks use the nylabrade reinforced vinyl hose with no issues that I have heard. Change it when it gets hard to see, usually lasts many years. And leave bottom valve closed when not viewing.
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I do not have valves on top of the sight gauges on my boat. Where would I buy them and new hose?


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Any good hardware store or marine store.
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I know the rules say a valve on top and bottom of sight hose, but I don't see a big deal with just having a valve on the bottom. Lots of folks use the nylabrade reinforced vinyl hose with no issues that I have heard. Change it when it gets hard to see, usually lasts many years. And leave bottom valve closed when not viewing.
I agree with you Ski which is why I have not done it yet. It is a relatively cheap and easy thing to add, at least on my boat, so it is something I will do as I run out of higher priority items.

The reason that I agree with you is that the top valve is near the top of the tank (duh). So unless my tanks are near full when I have a fire, the upper valve really wouldn't make much of a different. Since I am not planning on having an ER fire, and my tanks are rarely that full, the margin of safety that the upper valves would provide is pretty small. Again, something I will do at some point, likely this winter. However, if I had to change out the tubing now, I would add the valves at the same time.
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I have no idea what to call the diesel viewing tubes. I need new ones because I have no idea how much fuel I have. That could be a problem.

Where can I get them and what are they called?
Tygon tubing. Google it. Many types. Many applications.
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