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Old 12-28-2011, 08:36 PM   #21
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RE: cleaning fuel tanks

I have used Soltron for years.**It works well.**Ohers I*know*have also used it for*years... they swear by it too.* Cleans tanks and keeps em clean.* Improves fuel burn.* Stabilizes fuel held for long durations.* Very affordable!* Following website has loads of info.* Good Luck!

http://www.soltron-gtr.com/english.htm
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:04 AM   #22
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Ditto on the Soltron. Starbrite started carrying it as Startron, easy to find at West Marine and others.
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:54 PM   #23
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I add to this discussion,, for the benefit of any novice boater, that no matter how many and much additives that one adds to diesel fuel that will NOT CLEAN THE TANK, period. It may clean the fuel but the crud is still on the bottom of the tank and in a rough sea it will get into suspension and the cleanest of fuel will pick that up and into the filters it goes.

Same for "fuel polishing" polish all you want but the crud is in the bottom. That must be removed by some means. Then keep the fuel clean.
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In similarity to as you mention, it is also my belief that if a fuel tank is toooo thicky filled (coated) with too-old crap on its bottom or walls then it is only that opening it up for hand scraping will be the best action to take.* But, if the tanks crud is not too thick, nor been there too many years (I do not know how to accurately approximate either of those measurements), then there are fuel additives that can actually clean the inside of a tank and fuel line as well as to keep them clean and increase the duration of*fuel stability thereafter.* There are intricacies too specific to address in this post regarding some forms (i.e. Toluene - toxic*chemical) of liquid insertion for tank cleaning... but, I have found Soltron does work and is very simple/safe/affordable to regularly use.**Suggestions:

Soltron: http://www.soltron-gtr.com/english.htm Entire site has really interesting stats etc.* Ive found that Soltron has cleaned the interior of my gasoline tanks, fuel lines and carburetors, then kept them clean.* It also allows me to keep gasoline for long durations without experiencing problems of it getting stale.* I understand it works amply well with diesel and other fuel types.

Visit Soltron FAQ link at page top... then punch up:
-***** What benefits can be expected from using Soltron Enzyme Fuel Treatment?... then read popup box, especially center area
-***** Why will Soltron be different than any other fuel treatments I have used before?... then read popup box, especially from the center down

Toluene: For aggressive liquid cleaning action (one with considerable intricacies regarding application and finalization, and, not necessarily to be used as a fuel additive, but rather as a standalone product) Ive found there is virtually no fuel propagated tank buildup or crud that Toluene (a very hazardous chemical) will not eventually breakdown and emulsify to enable various means of the cruds removal.* I do not recommend any novice to use Toluene unless an experienced person is available.* There are several handling precautions/procedures that should be followed. See CAUTION below.

CAUTION Toluene Hazards Identification:
Potential Acute Health Effects:
Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of ingestion, of inhalation. Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (permeator).
Potential Chronic Health Effects:
CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: A4 (Not classifiable for human or animal.) by ACGIH, 3 (Not classifiable for human.) by IARC.* MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Not available. The substance may be toxic to blood, kidneys, the nervous system, liver, brain, central nervous system (CNS).
Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance Toluene can produce target organs damage

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Old 12-30-2011, 01:03 AM   #24
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RE: cleaning fuel tanks

appreciate all info and advice* , still researching products ,dont stop now *keep*it up

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Old 12-30-2011, 07:11 AM   #25
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RE: cleaning fuel tanks

for the gasser boats...regular ethanol fuel cleans the tank all by itself VERY well.* Once phase separation occurs or you get a big slug of water (meaning separation soon to follow)...that has to be removed and cleaned though.

I'm sure lightly crudded diesel tanks could be cleaned with an additive...but I would never run it though my diesel.* Most additives dilute diesel lubricity (no matter what most boaters, additive manufacturers, mechanics, old timers, etc...etc tell you) so I would only clean my tanks as a separate action to running clean fuel with one of a handfull of additives through my engine.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:44 AM   #26
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for the gasser boats...regular ethanol fuel cleans the tank all by itself VERY well.* Once phase separation occurs or you get a big slug of water (meaning separation soon to follow)...that has to be removed and cleaned though.

I'm sure lightly crudded diesel tanks could be cleaned with an additive...but I would never run it though my diesel.* Most additives dilute diesel lubricity (no matter what most boaters, additive manufacturers, mechanics, old timers, etc...etc tell you) so I would only clean my tanks as a separate action to running clean fuel with one of a handfull of additives through my engine.
Hi Scott

I clearly see from your posts that you have a lot of marine background, i.e. learned experience.* Much you say hits nail on head, I read your input carefully.*

Regarding Soltron fuel additive, I wonder if you could take time to carefully examine the in-depth info on Soltrons website and give us your unbiased opinion on what attributes you feel Soltron might provide?* In the site there is much they profess; with seemingly good stats and backup. http://www.soltron-gtr.com/english.htm

Ive had years of really good results by utilizing Soltron with gasoline rigs*and have had many gas as well as diesel boat owners on several forums and at boatyards also speak highly of Soltrons capabilities for apparatus cleaning and fuel stabilization.* To date Ive not heard one Soltron user say negative things and most greatly applaud its results after using it for years.* Many who have never used Soltron and therefore have not experienced its results down play it, I guess from lack of practical knowledge.

Any input you can provide on this is appreciated!

Thanks! Art*

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Old 12-30-2011, 07:57 AM   #27
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With today's lower sulfur diesel fuels, will tank crud become less of an issue?
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:45 PM   #28
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What gasket sealer did you seal the inspection ports with?
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:22 AM   #29
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With today's lower sulfur diesel fuels, will tank crud become less of an issue?

Long term yes , but short term as the glop is stripped from the tank walls a pre filter and a few cases of filters might be a good idea.

This might be a good use of one of the tiny filer setups that run 24/7 while on the power hose , dockside.
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RTV BLUE

The ONLY gasket sealer(maker) that I carried on the boat. It seals where no other does.. Of course this is only my EXPERIENCE and not speculation!!!

I replaced a water pump gasket on my Perkins using this with NO gasket, infact did it on both engines.
*I thought silicone was bad? I was thinking about this stuff because my inspection plate actually holds back fuel.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/HYL...UV5?Pid=search (new window)

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for the gasser boats...regular ethanol fuel cleans the tank all by itself VERY well.* Once phase separation occurs or you get a big slug of water (meaning separation soon to follow)...that has to be removed and cleaned though.

I'm sure lightly crudded diesel tanks could be cleaned with an additive...but I would never run it though my diesel.* Most additives dilute diesel lubricity (no matter what most boaters, additive manufacturers, mechanics, old timers, etc...etc tell you) so I would only clean my tanks as a separate action to running clean fuel with one of a handfull of additives through my engine.
Hi Scott

I clearly see from your posts that you have a lot of marine background, i.e. learned experience.* Much you say hits nail on head, I read your input carefully.*

Regarding Soltron fuel additive, I wonder if you could take time to carefully examine the in-depth info on Soltrons website and give us your unbiased opinion on what attributes you feel Soltron might provide?* In the site there is much they profess; with seemingly good stats and backup. http://www.soltron-gtr.com/english.htm

Ive had years of really good results by utilizing Soltron with gasoline rigs*and have had many gas as well as diesel boat owners on several forums and at boatyards also speak highly of Soltrons capabilities for apparatus cleaning and fuel stabilization.* To date Ive not heard one Soltron user say negative things and most greatly applaud its results after using it for years.* Many who have never used Soltron and therefore have not experienced its results down play it, I guess from lack of practical knowledge.

Any input you can provide on this is appreciated!

Thanks! Art*

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*Thanks for the compliment!

My cut on most additives is they are snake oil. While many have some good properties to them...many are actually harmful to your engine in other ways. So I am very leary of them....including Soltron unless a fuel or engine manufacturer starts singing it's praises.

Just because they have endorsements...doesn't mean squat.* I worked in the USCG for many years and what some guys came up with downright scared me.*

The only endorsements I would believe for fuel additives would be ones endorsed by the engine or fuel manufacturers because they have serious vested interest in that fuels performance.* Because I see little or no endorsements from those sources...I'm suspect of most additives.

Now I do concede that some additives to prevent fuel icing/gelling or anti-microbial (sp?) and lastly stabilizing for long term storage are the only ones I would really recommend.**But they have to be the same that have mil-spec certs or have been around forever and only claim to do what their main function is...not the rainbow to the pot of gold stuff.* I might use*a lubricity additive... but I've read the best is actually a bit of bio-diesel added to regular diesel.* I have a study results printout from "The Diesel Place" if you would like a copy/link...it's amazing how many big name additives are actually bad for your engine.

Gassers are actually lucky....except for phase separation in methanol fuel..the methanol is one ingredient*of the old additives that DID everything from remove water to clean injectrs/tanks/carbs (gets rid of varnish)

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Old 01-29-2012, 04:31 PM   #32
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going with sea-built idea .localish* supplier no longer supplying so going to fab my own only square . will 4mm plate fastened at 50mm centres suffice

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RE: cleaning fuel tanks

I had thought it was illegal for some reason but apparently (according to this article) that is only for Gasoline fuel tanks. This link is to an article on the subject and an interesting photo.

http://georgebuehler.com/Fuel%20tank%20drains.html

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RE: cleaning fuel tanks

My original steel tanks are covered with insulation, I am guessing to reduce condensation inside the tank. The tanks appear OK solid, around inspection plate, some surface rust, but not too bad. The rest is hidden behind the insulation. Does it make sense to remove the insulation, or leave in place? My main concern is that if it leaked around the filler cap, the insulation would absorb the water and trap it against the steel. As of now all is dry.
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