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10-14-2018, 06:33 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. HC. Thanks. I hope everyone realizes that you are only using the drill press as a pseudo arbor press and the drill press is NOT running. I can fully appreciate using the proper tools for the job and there is no substitute for proper (read sometimes expensive) equipment IF one is using them a lot but it's hard, for me at least, to justify significant $$ outlay for a tool(s) used infrequently or maybe only once or twice.
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10-14-2018, 06:43 PM
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City: Miami Florida
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I got it Rufus.
In regard to my tip, you hammer on the hand drill handle.
Just kidding!
Pull the trigger on the hand drill and the spinning punch cuts right through the fabric.
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10-14-2018, 08:19 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
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Well when I can fabricte a flybridge enclosure for less than $2000 that would have cost in excess of $7000 it isn’t hard to justify the cost of almost any tools. Then you make canvas for your next boat and the cost of quality tools is insignificant.
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10-15-2018, 12:34 AM
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Guru
City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
We spent the money 11 years ago and have no regrets. No more blood blisters and when you’re done they look good.
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Same for me after making a mess of many with the cheapo hammer tools.
I don't use a punch though, rather a large nail , bent so my tiny Vise Grip will hold it away from a flat surface when set down, and heat the nail with my torch.
Fast, seals the threads to one another. Wrong, maybe , but it has worked now for quite a few years. I was told about it, not my idea, too long ago to remember by who.
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10-15-2018, 07:40 AM
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Guru
City: Chocowinity NC
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Heat is your friend. I like the hot nail trick. I used to use an old soldering iron with a fine point tip for punching holes, and a flat blade n the same iron to use as a hot knife cutting Sunbrella. Like you said, no frayed edges..
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10-15-2018, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member
City: Oceanside, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
We spent the money 11 years ago and have no regrets. No more blood blisters and when you’re done they look good.
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Same for me, make's the job a snap!
I bought the Harbor Freight rotary leather punch for making holes. Works great. $6.99
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10-21-2018, 10:04 AM
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Senior Member
City: Beaufort, SC
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Any opinions on nickel plated brass versus all stainless snaps?
Has anyone found that nickel plated brass actually does stand up well in a marine environment - or not?
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10-21-2018, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ORIF
Any opinions on nickel plated brass versus all stainless snaps?
Has anyone found that nickel plated brass actually does stand up well in a marine environment - or not?
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Wondering the same thing. Some of my canvas is old and worn but the snaps are like new. Whatever they are is what I want. Anyone know of a way to see whether or not snaps are nickle coated vs. stainless? Any tell tale signs?
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10-21-2018, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member
City: Beaufort, SC
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I believe that with most nickel plated brass snaps you'll see that the wire snap ring is brass, and with some, the unexposed inner portions of the snaps are not plated. Hard way would be to cut one in half and look at the cross section but I believe the above are tell tales.
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10-21-2018, 10:39 AM
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Guru
City: Jupiter, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ORIF
I believe that with most nickel plated brass snaps you'll see that the wire snap ring is brass, and with some, the unexposed inner portions of the snaps are not plated. Hard way would be to cut one in half and look at the cross section but I believe the above are tell tales.
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And there you go! Will check them out today. Just got my new snap tool from Sailrite and sawing one in half and then replacing is a great reason to use it. Thank goodness I have zero other projects to do on the boat an I can invent a new one. Right. Sure.
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10-21-2018, 10:49 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Greetings,
Mr. fb. "...zero other projects..." HAH! I've got LOTS to do. Set aside a month or so....
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10-21-2018, 11:05 AM
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Guru
City: Jupiter, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. fb. "...zero other projects..." HAH! I've got LOTS to do. Set aside a month or so....
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Agreed. I was supposed to retire August 31st but they made me a nice offer to hang on so I continue on for a bit. When I was counting the days I was planning 1 month for the boat to complete everything (knowing full well it would be 2 months). Complete everything on my current list and not taking into account the projects that will come up during the month. Can't wait. End of first quarter 2019 most likely. Hopefully that gives me enough time to complete them before hot weather arrives yet again.
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10-21-2018, 01:49 PM
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Guru
City: Mississippi
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Love this post. I'm thinking of making a flybridge enclosure for our new boat - already has a nice one yr old bimini attached to the radar arch, so will just need the sides - but it is a fairly large FB I've looked at some used Sailrite machines and some other brands also - when we had a sailboat I made several items such as sail covers ..., using my wife's Singer - so not a total novice.
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10-21-2018, 03:08 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
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I have a Sailrite 111 machine with the upgraded motor. Absolutely get the upgraded motor. I can single stitch through 6 layers of Sunbrella with the upgraded motor.
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10-21-2018, 03:25 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Seneca Lake NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
I have a Sailrite 111 machine with the upgraded motor. Absolutely get the upgraded motor. I can single stitch through 6 layers of Sunbrella with the upgraded motor.
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I'm not familiar w the Sailrite 111 - wondering if it's been discontinued?
I can say the common LS-1 or LSZ-1 machines with the monster wheel option / mod do a very good job w/ multi layers - I've tried 10 layers of Sunbrella w/ no problem - didn't see a point going further.
About the toughest job I've done is sewing onto vinyl awning rope and it handles that reasonably well.
Periodically there are used LS-1s or LSZ-1s available.
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10-21-2018, 03:53 PM
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Guru
City: Jupiter, Florida
Vessel Name: Black Eyed Susan
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42' Classic
Join Date: Nov 2016
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[QUOTE=Bacchus;708449]I'm not familiar w the Sailrite 111 - wondering if it's been discontinued?
Yes, discontinued and I believe replace by a model called "The Fabricator". We have the LSZ1 with the "Monster Wheel" which is aptly named.
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10-22-2018, 06:57 PM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
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My machines, when I was in the upholstery business, were walking foot Pfaff and Consew industrial machines. I don't remember the model numbers but most are quality machines with large bobbins, and the ability to hold and run larger cones of thread. They can also handle larger diameter threads that a home machine can't usually run without having problems. I've never used a Sailrite machine but I haven't heard anything bad about them.
If you buy a Pfaff or Consew, you can probably get your money back by selling it off when the project is done.
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10-22-2018, 07:37 PM
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Guru
City: Jupiter, Florida
Vessel Name: Black Eyed Susan
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42' Classic
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If I remember correctly the Sailrite machines are the same basic machines as the Consew but Sailrite takes them and files down/smooths out this and that, upgrades some things, does a more thorough fit and finish on them and resells.
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10-22-2018, 07:46 PM
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#40
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firstbase
If I remember correctly the Sailrite machines are the same basic machines as the Consew but Sailrite takes them and files down/smooths out this and that, upgrades some things, does a more thorough fit and finish on them and resells.
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None of the Sailrites look like any like the industrial Consew machines I have owned or used. At least none I have seen on their website and in their videos.
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