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Old 09-07-2016, 08:46 PM   #21
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Ms. D. As Mr. 11 suggested on post #15, you could paint a lot of the trim. A half decent paint job should last 5+ years at which point you may opt to go back to a varnish/Cetol type finish or re-paint. VERY IMPORTANT if you do decide to paint! Please seal your raw teak with two or three coats of varnish/Cetol first, yes, before you put on the paint.

The reasoning behind this is IF you or a subsequent owner decides to revert to a varnish/Cetol finish it will be much easier to strip the paint down to clear teak as the paint has not soaked into the pores of the raw teak.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:45 PM   #22
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Don't bring up anchors ;-)
Don't you sand and varnish the brightwork on your anchors??
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:54 PM   #23
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Unfinished teak trim usually degrades the look of the boat and gives the impression it's neglected. So if you plan on cleaning washing on a regular basis might as well seal or varnish the teak. Once you have the initial 4 to 6 coats, then once a year lightly sand and apply a new coat.
Only 4-6 coats and a one new coat a year!? Maybe you get away with that some place where sun doesn't come out much. And you don't care if the wood grain is still coming through the varnish job.

10-12 costs is more like it if you want the deep gloss and longevity you get from a varnish job that truly fills the grain gives you a nice depth of finish.

Here in south Florida a old school varnish job will need to be recoated at a minimum of 2 times a year if you're lucky.
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:57 PM   #24
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Angelina has sported the 'workboat' look of grey on most of her teak for over a quarter of a century. There is just enough well kept brightwork on her to keep the naysayers at bay.

Neglect this!
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Old 09-08-2016, 02:14 AM   #25
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Unfinished teak still requires time and effort. I've gone to cetol for limited trim. In my opinion the maintaintence of a light sanding and a recoat is less than the cleaning of raw teak. I've done
The DeksOlje route with no harm, it weathered off for me with no extra work, but it hardly lasted a season without the gloss addition.
Deks Olje # 1 is an oil. It is applied in saturation initially, but needs maintenance applications, maybe 3 monthly. The optional #2 is a gloss finish, lasts about a year. Importantly,it does not fail by bubbling and peeling like varnish and requiring 100% removal. It just loses shine, and can be recoated, and easily sanded to remove build up. I`ve just come home from doing the recoating, hope it is still shiny tomorrow, but it needs one more coat.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:48 AM   #26
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Oh jeez! I think this is going to be trial and error for me. I don't mind the walk around while under power for wiping down, but maintenance every 3 months with sanding? Not for me.
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Our boat has a 'work boat' heritage, so I'm leaning towards grey teak with a touch of finished brightwork. Figure I've got till next spring to make a choice as to what product to use, and I keep waffling between tung oil and boiled linseed oil. So far, Allback is winning; Purified Linseed Oil: Boiled & Raw Organic Linseed Oil

As to application (brush on, let soak in, wipe off excess with a rag) one good tip I heard from a wood boat forum was, "Twice a day for a week, twice a week for a month, twice a month for a year, twice a year for life".

What tipped me in BLO's direction was a conversation I had with an old, retired Newfie (Newfoundland) fisherman. (It's amazing how much advice you can get from people walking the docks when they see you scraping old, flaking varnish off.) He said BLO was all they ever used...I figure they had more important things to do than fuss over making their boats purdy!
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:56 AM   #28
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I have been sanding non stop since closing on Friday. The teak is beautiful when sanded. Can I wipe it down with Murphy's oil soap, (which really does not contain soap) and reinstall?

I'm not liking the idea of paint, varnish, oil, etc.
Teak is a relatively soft hardwood of medium density that has low bending aggression resistance even if it is offering a natural protection.

After sanding your teak, I should like, however, to draw your attention to the absolute need (in my own opinion and experience) to protect wood from atmospheric aggressions, particularly pollution and dark spots from birds, with 2 layers of special teak pore filler. Improving as well the storm-water drainage, pore filler is very easy to applying (consistency of water). Durability and stability of the product is very good over the medium term (2 years).

I would further like to add that a good pore filler does not leave film and allows to varnish your teak if later you should wish to change your mind about that.

I am aware that your concern was not about your deck, but as an example, here are some pictures before, and last week after 2 layers of pore filler applied almost 4 months ago on previously cleaned decks. The same result can, however, be achieved in another part of your boat like your rails.

Finally, I have used this for quite a number of years on my previous boats and it has proved to be very useful and good looking.
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Plenty of varnish, plenty of bare.

All good.
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Oh jeez! I think this is going to be trial and error for me. I don't mind the walk around while under power for wiping down, but maintenance every 3 months with sanding? Not for me.
No reason to sand when applying a 3 monthly maintenance coat of oil. Wipe it on with a sponge or rag as needed, under power or docked, and you`re done.
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Your decks look great. I've never heard of a teak pore filler. Can you provide a brand name?
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Old 09-08-2016, 06:58 PM   #32
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There's a book widely considered the bible of brightwork.

Brightwork by Rebecca Whitman

She covers all the options, oiling, varnishing and "going grey".
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Old 09-08-2016, 07:46 PM   #33
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There's a book widely considered the bible of brightwork.

Brightwork by Rebecca Whitman

She covers all the options, oiling, varnishing and "going grey".

A woman?!!!!

Come on now....
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A woman?!!!!

Come on now....
If your dentist or surgeon is a lady, I hope for your sake she doesn't read that
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If your dentist or surgeon is a lady, I hope for your sake she doesn't read that
I'm waiting for Peggy to see it!
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Plenty of varnish, plenty of bare.

All good.
Menzies, that looks terrific. Nothing like a good bright work job to make the boat look loved.

But, one does not need to varnish but how about paint, wax, wash and other wise looking good?
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Nothing on Sonas is painted apart from her bottom (actually as I wrote that I remembered the new name on the stern was painted!).

I have a young lady and her team do the detailing. Monthly washing and then once a year a full wax job (completed about a month ago). I hose her down after every trip. The monthly washing decision was easy when I learned that my wife was paying the same amount to the house cleaners every two weeks!!! So Sonas costs half as much as the house!

We have agreed that they will lightly sand the brightwork this fall and apply two more coats of varnish to keep the big brightwork job at bay!

So nothing that a couple of checks won't solve!
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So nothing that a couple of checks won't solve!

Yeah, writing a check is often the easiest form of boat maintenance. I do it for some things. Not wanting to sand and varnish myself and not being able to financially pay professionals to do it, I chose a boat where the only exterior teak is on the ladder up to the boat deck.

Cheap and lazy. Just how I roll. 😎
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Yeah, writing a check is often the easiest form of boat maintenance. I do it for some things. Not wanting to sand and varnish myself and not being able to financially pay professionals to do it, I chose a boat where the only exterior teak is on the ladder up to the boat deck.

Cheap and lazy. Just how I roll. 😎
I feel a thread coming on!
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I appreciated your nice Thanks / PM.

4 months after cleaning / applying, the swim platform yet much exposed to weather (some rain & UV light) and currents while underway, is still looking fine.
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