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Old 09-09-2016, 07:43 PM   #21
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I'm fortunate to never had a smelly bilge. ... How old is your toilet's piping?
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Old 09-09-2016, 07:48 PM   #22
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I'm going to go clean mine tomorrow
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Old 09-09-2016, 10:29 PM   #23
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quote: " Vinegar--and btw, it should be distilled white vinegar, not cider--

Yep, my bad! I will back off,as there are as many suggestions as stars in the sky take your pick.

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Old 09-09-2016, 10:34 PM   #24
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I'm fortunate to never had a smelly bilge. ... How old is your toilet's piping?


Your lucky the rust must adsorb the smells
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Old 09-09-2016, 10:38 PM   #25
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quote: " vinegar--and btw, it should be distilled white vinegar, not cider--

yep, my bad! I will back off,as there are as many suggestions as stars in the sky take your pick.

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Old 09-09-2016, 11:33 PM   #26
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I'd stear clear of ozone generators on a boat. Ozone attacks rubber.
Peggie turned me onto Pure Ayre for cat urine smells. I liked it so much I started stocking it in my store.
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Old 09-10-2016, 08:06 AM   #27
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Peggie turned me onto Pure Ayre for cat urine smells. I liked it so much I started stocking it in my store.

Hmmm... yeah, speaking of cats, or any pets for that matter...

There are a few products specifically for dealing with pet boo-boos, especially on carpets. Folex is one, Nature's Miracle is another... and we've found those both to be very effective for their purpose. Wouldn't surprise me if those might be useful general purpose cleaners for whole pet-free carpet, and maybe even also for hard surfaces as in bilge areas.

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Old 09-10-2016, 08:11 AM   #28
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I care less how the bilge smells, unless it permeates the whole boat.

The simplest was sometimes is just figure how to keep fresh air circulating through both the bilge and the cabin.

Sure if you can identify the source, eliminate it either physically or by cleaning.

In the mean time, keep the air flowing.

Just building on this... Agree, mostly.

Happens our 5 forward bilge compartments are directly "air-connected" to the interior of the boat. The 6th (engine room) isn't as closely connected, but clean and dry helps the interior anyway.

Fresh air movement is good. Especially in hot months, we keep our AC blowers running 100% of the time, augmented by portable fans in every "room" of the boat also running almost 100% of the time.

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Just building on this... Agree, mostly.

Happens our 5 forward bilge compartments are directly "air-connected" to the interior of the boat. The 6th (engine room) isn't as closely connected, but clean and dry helps the interior anyway.

Fresh air movement is good. Especially in hot months, we keep our AC blowers running 100% of the time, augmented by portable fans in every "room" of the boat also running almost 100% of the time.

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My older Silverton had the decks about 4 inches higher than any stringers or crossing support structures (wouldn't call them ribs, maybe mini bulkheads?)...forward of the engineroom...fresh air could circulate from anchor locker to engineroom.

As a live aboard - July good! .....February bad! The cold air needed a bit of slowing down...
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Old 09-10-2016, 08:36 AM   #30
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I'd stear clear of ozone generators on a boat. Ozone attacks rubber.
Peggie turned me onto Pure Ayre for cat urine smells. I liked it so much I started stocking it in my store.
Urban myth. One of many mentioned on here.

Google EPA and Ozone makers.

The studies done and EPA findings covers two things applicable here.

First damage to materials. The ozone needs to be present in quantities not even remotely possible through a Bilge Buster.

EPA on whether they work. The EPA findings are regarding "indoor use." in other words relatively large spaces compared to a bilge.

So there is no study on a small ozone maker placed in a small space such as a bilge.

If you do find some information, EPA or otherwise, I would sure be interested in reading it.

I did not have an ozone maker in my last boat but inherited one on my present boat. So interested in the science - but applicable science.
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Old 09-10-2016, 08:37 AM   #31
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Bilge freshener?

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Just building on this... Agree, mostly.

Happens our 5 forward bilge compartments are directly "air-connected" to the interior of the boat. The 6th (engine room) isn't as closely connected, but clean and dry helps the interior anyway.

Fresh air movement is good. Especially in hot months, we keep our AC blowers running 100% of the time, augmented by portable fans in every "room" of the boat also running almost 100% of the time.

-Chris

Speaking of moving air, I have two Eva-dry 1100 dehumidifiers I run when not on the boat, but my boat has a bit of a "rubbery" smell when I first walk in. Those two humidifiers hardly move any air at all. I need some air circulation.

What type of fans do you use, and feel comfortable with running 24/7 when not on the boat?
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Years ago I bought an expensive ozone machine.

Ozone does what it is claimed to do.....

The trick is to get it in concentrations long enough, in the right spots, and yet not in quantities to damage things.

After a decade of playing around with it, the 2 wire grid generators finally died and I never had enough success with figuring out all the combinations to replace it.

And yes I read every tidbit on them I could find and talked to every other owner I met.
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Old 09-10-2016, 08:54 AM   #33
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Then we found Fresh Wave https://www.freshwaveworks.com/store...sh-pod-c27.htm
it comes in stick-ups. I think it is very close to the same formula as Pure Ayre...it has an odd smell at first ( not unpleasant, a little herbal). But it worked wonderfully.

So you traded in a true odor eliminator for air fresheners that are nothing like PureAyre...That's all any stick up is. You can prove that to yourself: remove all the stickups for a week.
I actually think Fresh Wave is the same formula as Pure Ayre, but be that as it may the pod has been gone for almost two months ( no air freshener etc on the boat now either) and the residual diesel/oil smell is gone too.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:17 AM   #34
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"they can't deliver enough ozone to destroy the sources of any odors."

Esp if the source is 600G of diesel slowly going into the bilge , a drop at a time.
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Greetings,
On a related topic, a hint (which I've mentioned several times before but worth repeating, IMO, for the newbies). If you're using a wet-vac for clean up put it on the dock/ground OUTSIDE the boat. Much easier to maneuver when the need to empty arises. You aren't lugging a container full of ??? through your boat with the possibility of spillage INSIDE your vessel.

Buy a sump pump hose (usually in lengths of 20'-25') and slip fit it onto the vacuum hose thus extending the factory hose by 20+ feet. Any "oopsies" should occur off board.

Shop ProPlumber Plastic Hose at Lowes.com

Also, rig an extension cord so you can easily plug and unplug from on board so you aren't getting on and off to turn the vacuum on/off.
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I don't believe they make those anymore do they? Nor can you buy parts.
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Here I go again!! . Cleaned out the bildge area with a wet/dry vac. There is a smell associated with it. Is there something I can keep in that area to keep it smelling better?
Once you get the bilge clean and if there is going to be standing water in it, keep a bromine tablet in it to keep the odors away.
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Old 09-10-2016, 10:14 AM   #38
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I don't believe they make those anymore do they? Nor can you buy parts.
No idea. The boat has two boxes of manuals for everything on board (even the iron and ironing board!). I am clearing out a lot of inventory today (Maptech charts from all over the place included) and will have a look at the manual to see what parts need maintenance if any.

Frankly I haven't had the need to turn it on. And I live in FL!
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Old 09-10-2016, 10:16 AM   #39
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I have these!

Doing my best to help close the hole in the sky!
I had one, it worked great but then the little generator (?) burned out. Went to replace it and found that the company has gone out of business.
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Hmm, good question about how old the head plumbing is. I know the aft head is relatively new, but have plans on replacing the forward head as that seems quite old on visual inspection by me.

I'm pretty good with house plumbing. My understanding on boat plumbing is a different animal. That I will need to research.
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