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Old 02-25-2012, 05:02 PM   #41
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I'm clueless as to the materials of the Coot's swim platform beyond the stainless steel tubing.* Didn't order it so received without cost.* If it becomes a maintenance "nightmare," I'll remove it.



-- Edited by markpierce on Saturday 25th of February 2012 05:29:54 PM
*Looks like a nice setup...if I didn't think my platform was going to somehow become part of my dingy storage...your design would be pretty high on my list (especially with marinas hitting you up for every inch these days!)
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:04 PM   #42
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They have some wonderful expanded metal frames that we use for building docks and piers. Aluminum frame and this stuff would be awesome. If anyone reads this and is interested in what it is i'll find out, pm me.
*problem with aluminum on the East Coast/Gulf Coast...unless painted white it would burn your feet in the summer (unless it's so close to the water you can keep it wet...)

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Old 02-25-2012, 05:35 PM   #43
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psneeld wrote:So a simple to construct, nicely finished, epoxy, ply*and glass, properly done made from materials that WILL DO THE JOB AS WELL AS OVERPRICED/NO BETTER PRODUCTS is hardly a "Walmart" job.....it just makes the most sense.

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We can agree to disagree. No worries. However, I wouldn't necessarily assume that you have the supreme knowledge in all matters. It won't serve you well in the long run.*
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:39 PM   #44
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I think all of us tend to offer advice based upon our own comfort zones. Alternative Swim Platform Materials was the title. I made my recommendation based upon my comfort with steel work and the powder coating process itself. Nothing else. Some folks have differing comfort levels.

That said, name calling and stereotyping either as cheap or rich is counterproductive to the thread.

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*Apologies. The Walmart reference was made simply as a comparison between barely suitable and much better. Oooops!!!
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DaddyO - I'm staying out of this one, but have to make one comment. I was very surprised to hear IPE suggested. I am NOT saying not to use it, but when we started using it on some of our buildings in the city, no carpenter or wood shop wanted to work with it because it is so hard it eats saws, blades, and drills alive, so check into that. Our other problem with it was nothing would stick to it ( I just don't know about epoxy with it), and we never found an acceptable finish for it either. Nothing would soak into it, it is so hard. One thing, though, it is the only wood in NYC that meets all fire codes on it's own with no coating. Again, I am not saying don't use it, just ask some carpenters what they think about it before you buy. Just wanted to mention my experience with it, not debate anyone.

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Ipe is a hard wood. I had best results using a 40 tooth blade in the skill saw and slow feed. Drill bits would burn out if pushed hard. Use a slow feed for best results. Never tried epoxy but had great results with Gorilla glue. The glue is still holding on our exterior deck built 2005.

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Old 02-25-2012, 07:25 PM   #46
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I posted some pics earlier on my swim platform, but didn't comment on the epi issue.* The first pic below showed the remains of the old platform after Irene finished with me.* The next couple show in process, sistering in epi that was salvaged from damaged boards at our marina (free). I did insert battens under the platform where the brackets would be, and planned the "isstering" joints to fall on the battens.

The original platform was attached with long thru-bolts into the transom, but we had to cut them off to remove the platform, and was a lot simpler installing the battens for the rebuild.

I didn't have much choice trying to bring all the materials back to a "wood" finish so I painted it, with non-skid in the top coat of gloss white paint.

The epi didn't seem that hard to work with ( I have a pretty good blade in a 10" table saw) but face planing, drilling and routing weren't unusually difficult.* One caution is to use a dust mask working with the stuff: it creates* sawdust that's very fine, almost like talc.

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Old 02-25-2012, 07:43 PM   #47
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It might be interestin to know which of the members replying to this question have actually done any of the things they suggest??

Are you recommending from experience or opinion?

I built the swimstep I described, the way I described it.* It worked.* It was reasonably priced and attractive and matched the boat.

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I also repaired the Honduran mahogany slatted style swimstep on my 36' Chris Craft Corvette.* It matched the boat.

I have used Ipe' on residential projects.* It is hard and hell and hard on tools, that said i wouldn't hesitate to use it for a swimstep if the style of the boat warranted it.*

There are a lot of woods in common use today that were "junk wood"* when the exotics were plentiful and reasonably priced.

I have been a carpenter since August 1, 1971.* I wouldn't ever recommend something I WOULDN'T DO FOR MYSELF OR A CUSTOMER.

Your mileage may vary, fair winds and following seas,

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They have some wonderful expanded metal frames that we use for building docks and piers. Aluminum frame and this stuff would be awesome. If anyone reads this and is interested in what it is i'll find out, pm me.
*problem with aluminum on the East Coast/Gulf Coast...unless painted white it would burn your feet in the summer (unless it's so close to the water you can keep it wet...)

Here is the link or picture, I don't know what is going to post. *This is what I was talking about. *It's some plastic stuff.



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Paul,

Can you post a name or manufacturer?
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Here is the distributer. They may have a local rep.
http://www.premiermaterials.com/
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Thanks!
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Do you all think that swim platforms MUST have slots? My fiberglass platform does not but before I refinish it I was wondering if I should cut in slots. Any naval architects in here?
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:08 PM   #53
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Slots aren't absolutely necessary but I'm sure there's a bit of engineering that has to be considered...if the supports and the swim platform are strong enough to lift a fair amount of water...then no...but I put some slots in the one I just made to be handholds...a place to tie to, I think it improves the looks and it can't hurt when shedding water.
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Current recycled milk botttle project avec les slots. Slots mean less platform weight, pass water through and provide handholds IMHO.
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David, do you have a blog where you detailed your project? I would like to replicate your result.
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CNC cut Star Board would be very easy to do. 1.5" Star Board would be strong enough if properly supported and last forever. It's available in many complimentary colors.






Or you could laminate in strips and then cut. There are some great examples out there.

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David, do you have a blog where you detailed your project? I would like to replicate your result.
No blog. Sorry. Have a few pics of the project if you want them. Also, Sarah at Plasteak can send you a pdf file of DYI instructions.
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Thanks for the link David. I'll PM you my email address later when I get to my computer.
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Pictures of PlasTeak swim platform I put together last fall all installed, with staple rail/granny bar that can be removed after pulling one quick release pin.

Next project is davits. Installed the lower mounts on the platform before we splashed on Tuesday.
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Really nice job, David!!! I quite enjoyed building mine last year out of Ipe

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