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Old 01-29-2016, 11:15 AM   #21
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For those with the whale gulper, whats the hose size? On my shower it looks like a 1-1/2" host going to the sump. I'd like to swap the sump for a gulper.
Our was also 1.5", we just use a hose reducer and a short piece of hose to the 220 Gulper it has a .75" and 1" hose option.......
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:27 PM   #22
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We put screens on the shower drains in the showers themselves to cut hair off at the pass.

Actually a diaphragm pump is superior for this specific purpose, least prone to jamming and better run dry performance (why they're preferred for waste pump out), but lack much capacity for acting as a high water backup.
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:34 PM   #23
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Our boat's shower is fitted with a unique type of pump for a boat. It is a peristaltic pump, same operating principle as a blood transfusion pump. No part of the pump itself touches the material being pumped. So it is not susceptible to being clogged by hair, soap scum, etc.
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Old 01-29-2016, 01:50 PM   #24
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We have two showers. Each is drained directly to individual Whale Gulper pumps. As these pumps can run dry, no sump is needed. No screens are used as the pumps can handle everything that normally appears in a shower drain. A float switch is not needed. Turn the pump on when you begin a shower and shut it off when done.
yep, Howard, Moonstruck has the same set up. The water drains to a basin under the floor grate. We can pump it during or after the shower. As you say, the pump is self priming, and can run dry. Pour a little bleach down to the basin with water, and the whole thing is sanitized. What a relief not to deal with a shower sump in the bilge.

In addition to the wall/door spray cleaner, I recommend a water softner to keep down spotting. Parks sold me one about a year ago, and it has been great for boat washing and use inside the boat.
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Old 01-29-2016, 02:12 PM   #25
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Similar set up for us - just installed the Whale Gulper last fall to replace a diaphragm pump with a screen. Simple and effective. Our master shower / tub is really just storage now so it doesn't count. (BTW does anyone really use their tub??)

My daughter uses the tub to give the kids a bath, her oldest son is 9 and has been boating with us since he was 5 months old uses the shower now the 2 younger ones use the tub. I think that is the only practical use for it. I also have a transom shower with hot/cold water that gets a lot of use after swimming or playing on a sandbar.


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Old 01-30-2016, 09:04 AM   #26
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"the 2 younger ones use the tub. I think that is the only practical use for it."

With an added bar it could be a great hanging locker for wet gear.
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Old 01-30-2016, 10:28 AM   #27
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Do you have to catch the grey water and then pump or can you just let it go overboard
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Greetings,
Mr. KD. " (BTW does anyone really use their tub??)" Well, we don't have a tub BUT, aside from bathing the tykes and/or the dog there are many, many uses.
As has been mentioned, storage or... fill with ice and beer for parties, live bait well/koi pond (depending on species, could be one and the same), home brewery/distillery, grow-op, dog pottie spot, snake pit and many more much too numerous to list. Ya just have to be a bit creative...
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:32 PM   #29
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Do you have to catch the grey water and then pump or can you just let it go overboard
In most boats the shower drains are below the waterline so you have to pump it.
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Old 01-30-2016, 04:36 PM   #30
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Is it wrong to let it go directly overboard? I know the boat we rented in the bvi's let all of it go. Black and grey
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:32 PM   #31
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About 6 months ago while shopping at Lowes I discovered "Method Daily Shower Spray Cleaner." After showering you spray the wet shower walls and floor with the cleaner and walk away. The shower(s) have remained spotless with no further cleaning necessary. The boss and I are amazed.
Yeah, been using that stuff for years. Works great. It's become standard issue for the crew shower on any boat I run. We try to get the owners and guest to use it as well.

Another product that works great both on shower doors and clean, polished exterior windows is this stuff:

EnduroShield, Glass Treatment Kit with 2 oz. Coating and 4.2 oz. Cleaner for Glass Showers, ESGL020D at The Home Depot - Mobile

Works better than Rain-X and lasts far longer.
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:40 PM   #32
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Do you have to catch the grey water and then pump or can you just let it go overboard
On our boat and most that I know of, the black water is captured and the gray water gets pumped (or drains via gravity) overboard.

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Old 01-31-2016, 10:29 PM   #33
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Our boat was equipped with a Flojet shower drain pump that failed to pump. It would run, but not pump. I took it apart and found some hair inside, but could not determine if it was functional.

I thought I would not "re-invent the wheel" and ordered another Flojet shower drain pump. Exact replacement. Within 10 showers it failed...it would run but not pump.

I called and spoke to a representative at Flojet. He told me that it would not handle the type of debris one could expect to go down a boat shower drain (e.g. hair, lint). I wasted money on that Flojet shower drain pump.

Vacation was fast approaching and the Admiral put the shower drain on the top of my worklist. After some discussions with knowledgeable boaters, we decided on a standard off-the-shelf sump and pump from West Marine. We have used this thing for at least 50 showers and it works as advertised. I will take the cover off and clean it this spring. It is in the engine space, so we can live with some odor if it goes in that direction as it ages.

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Our boat had a shower sump in the floor of the shower. In the sump is that standard Rule bilge pump and float switch. I seemed to replace a switch or a pump every 6-8 months, so I removed the sump in my shower and installed a Whale Gray IC. It is a diaphragm pump and a collection cup with an integrated switch. It has run for over 4 yrs now with almost no maintenance ( cleaned the cup twice). I am planning now to upgrade the wife's shower. The shower floor is dry when not in use as a shower.

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Yes, those whale gulper diaphragm type pumps that can run dry and pump out anything a shower is likely to throw at it does appear the answer. We are like FF, ours drains into the wet bilge and the auto bilge pump takes care of it, but we are not out overnighting that much. If we were, a gulper whale would go in asap. A boat surveyor who lived aboard for quite a time, and used to contribute to one of our boating mags said he found exactly the same thing.
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What kind of shower/tub sump system do you have?

On our boat one shower gravity feeds to the grey tank, and the other shower/sink drain into a rule sump box which then pumps into the grey tank.
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