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Old 10-14-2011, 11:15 PM   #1
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Inquiry:** I am looking at two boats, one has a propane stove, the other has an electric stove. I like to get some pros and cons for each.***

What do you have on your boat?****************** KJ


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Old 10-14-2011, 11:29 PM   #2
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Since I don't have a genset, the electric stove was out of the question even though I have a toroidal isolation transformer providing 110 AC in the boat in addition to 12- and 24-volt DC.* So have a propane stove.


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Old 10-14-2011, 11:31 PM   #3
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Both have their benefits. I happen to believe that propane has more benefits than electric. Propane (like gas) is better to cook with. So says pretty much every professional chef on the planet, anyway. And my wife.

Propane does not require a generator or a massive battery bank and inverter to operate. So you won't piss off everyone at the dock or in the anchorage by running your generator hour after hour while the prime rib cooks.

Some people are afraid of propane and think it will blow up their boat the moment they try to heat water for coffee. Assuming the boat has a properly installed propane system, it is no more dangerous than any other system on the boat. A poorly installed propane system can blow up your boat. A poorly installed electrical system can burn down your boat.

You do need to understand a propane system and make it a practice to use the safety features that are built into every properly designed propane system.

Our GB, like most of them, has a propane stove/oven. We replaced the original Magic Chef unit with a new Force 10 a few weeks after getting the boat to Bellingham, and today my wife prefers cooking on the boat to cooking at home (where we have an electric range).

I don't cook--- my idea of gourmet cooking is to use a platinum can opener--- so the benefits of cooking with gas are lost on me. So my main reason for prefering propane to electricity is the silent, self-contained nature of propane vs. running a generator every time you want to boil an egg.

Based on our 13 years' experience using the propane range on our boat and preparing everything from simple meals to Thanksgiving turkey and Christmas prime rib meals on board, we would never buy a boat with an electric galley.* Our boat has a generator, but we would still never consider swapping our propane range for an electric one.


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Old 10-14-2011, 11:37 PM   #4
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Some people are afraid of propane and think it will blow up their boat the moment they try to heat water for coffee. Assuming the boat has a properly installed propane system, it is no more dangerous than any other system on the boat. A poorly installed propane system can blow up your boat. ...
*My boat has fume*sensors in the galley and propane-tank compartment.* I bet the sensors are required by the government.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:39 PM   #5
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*My boat has fume*sensors in the galley and propane-tank compartment.* I bet the sensors are required by the government.
*No, they aren't.* Our boat doesn't have them and neither do the much newer boats of friends who have propane galleys.* Not saying the sensors are not worth having, just that they are not required by the government.
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:16 AM   #6
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Stoves are hardly expensive , one boat buck , so would never be the choice in which boat,

However an electric stove to me is a big waste of time , unless its 220 , they are really slow .

An electric stove would be a marker for a Dock Queen . fine if being marina bound or marina to marina is your style.

For cruising , where the anchor is home, electric could be hard to live with.

The only caviat here would be a southern cruiser that requires air cond 24/7 so noisemaker time and maint is already part of the cruising costs.
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:39 AM   #7
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I love to cook with gas too and have it at home for all the reasons you guys have stated. *Explosion factor - like all heavy gases, something to be aware of and don't take it lightly. *If you don't have a sensor get one and maybe a bilge blower too if you're conserned. *

I have had both electric and propane boat stoves, my previous two boats were gas cooking. *But here in the PNW with the high humidity and water being one of the bi-products of burning propane, the moisture generated inside of the boat keeps me from converting to propane. *Sad but true!!

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Old 10-15-2011, 07:23 AM   #8
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So you know where*my head is, we took out our gas stove at home last year and went with an induction cooktop/convection oven unit- what a great move.

Our vessel*is all electric and we are happy with it. Our cruising routine has us coordinating cooking, clothes washing and drying and battery charging so running the genset is not a pain. The genset is whisper quiet and with the convection microwave electric baking is a breeze.

Whether you have gas or electric, consider a "portable" induction cooktop burner, They use*less power than a conventional electric burner*and boil water as fast as propane. Our favorite way of cooking dinner is*light the*crockpot while cruising with electric supplied by the inverter powered by mains engines.

If I were to order a new Nordhavn, Fleming or *Northern Marine I'd go with an electric induction home style unit that could be run off*the 4KW engine driven 110V generator so the genset never runs as we cruise to the South Seas. If I were used boat shopping I would*place gas vs electric about number 10 on the list, either works.*
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We*replaced an*electric stove with propane on a 34' Mainship and it was quite easy.* We put in a RV stove, mounted the propane tank under the seat on the port side on the fly-bridge and ran the propane lines and solenoid wires down through a chase in the wall.* We went through 2 surveys while we owned the boat and never had any corrective actions.**I agree with Tom on Sunchaser, the stove*would be pretty far down my*list.*
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:53 AM   #10
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I have a propane stove on the MT. I had not really thought about it when I bought the boat,but as I found out later, my Wife would not have it any other way. And its one less power draw on the electric. Ask your honey what she prefers. BB
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Old 10-15-2011, 08:48 AM   #11
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We have a propane stove but have never used it! It works (I think!) but we have found the microwave to be more useful. My wife also loves the electric frypan and both are powered off the 3000watt inverter. (We have no generator)
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:13 AM   #12
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We currently have an electric stove - but only because the boat came with it and we haven't had the time/money yet to change it out to a propane stove which I would prefer! *(we have a gas cooktop at home, and love it)*
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:26 AM   #13
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I have a factory installed, ABYC compliant three burner propane stove with oven and broiler (Force 10). It's great and propane actually burns hotter than the natural gas we have at home.

I cannot figure out why a boat would have an electric stove unless it was a very large boat where a generator would be running most of the time.

Installing a (safe) propane system on a boat is difficult and not for the typical DIYer. Here is a link to the ABYC requirements:

http://www.abycinc.org/committees/A-01.pdf

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We have a propane stove but have never used it! It works (I think!) but we have found the microwave to be more useful. My wife also loves the electric frypan and both are powered off the 3000watt inverter. (We have no generator)
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You don't need a generator when you are plugged into shorepower 360 days a year.
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We have a propane stove but have never used it! It works (I think) ...
*No oven Walt?* Where do you store your pans?

Haven't used my stove/oven to cook anything yet.* But tested it and the flames came.

My propane is stored in the fake smokestack.* I'm happy it's not in the boat's interior.


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You don't need a generator when you are plugged into shorepower 360 days a year.
* * ** I have to admit, I got a big laugh out of that!* You're right, however, we're in the********

****** water 360 days a year. :nana:
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*No oven Walt?* Where do you store your pans?
******* Pans? We don't need no stinkin pans!

******* Seriously, though....all my wife needs in the electric fry pan. Most onboard meals can be cooked in that or the microwave which doesn't use pans. That is, in the Actual event where we are away from the shore power! :steaming:


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You don't need a generator when you are plugged into shorepower 360 days a year.
* * ** I have to admit, I got a big laugh out of that!* You're right, however, we're in the********

****** water 360 days a year. :nana:

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Well, I guess here is where I depart somewhat from the trawler mentality. When we started our refit of our Monk I had 2 options: replumb the entire propane system or convert it to electric. Due to various factors, we tore out the propane system and converted to yes....an electric cooktop. All our previous vessels were electric and it was fine. Most summers find us cooking on the grill outside anyway. I must confess, it makes absolutely no logical sense to me to have a diesel boat which has the distinct advantage of even if there is a fire, you don't have the risk of going "BOOM" like a gas boat and then throw a propane system onto that diesel boat which can make the boat then go "BOOM." Since we are in the south and we use our generator semi-regularly for HVAC to cool us off, going electric was no big deal and we are very happy for us that we did it. One of the other factors was that the old galley had no counter space or much storage at all. Switching to a flushmounted cooktop and eliminating the oven gave us probably 2x's the counter space and more storage so win/win. For our Monk in particular (our galley layout is different than most other Monks), switching to electric was most definitely the right choice.
But...like others have said...propane cooks better for sure.


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