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Old 09-25-2015, 11:21 AM   #21
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I've never seen anything for OR against it in any of the manuals, only been told in conversations with SeaLand personnel that it's ok try a plunger if nothing else works. But I don't update my copy of manual every year because the trouble-shooting guide hasn't changed enough to notice since Mansfield introduced the VacFlush in 1978....so apparently that's been added.
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:07 PM   #22
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Turn the water off, step on the foot pedal keeping it open and look at the hole in the bottom of the bowl. Bet it is right where it exits the bowl as the diameter of the exit is quite small, if it is clogged right there poke it with a 1/4" dowel, this is done with the toilet at vacuum. Once it clears the small exit it then enters a large hose, this has happened a few times to us when someone is TP happy..........

PS....throw the dowel away......
Thanks. Tried that several times
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Here you are, have a look at page six - Clearing Discharge Lines...
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Plungers are really bad idea, you can damage the duck bills or vacuum switch.

SeaLand approves limited use of a plunger to clear a clog. They're the only mfr who does.The pedal--or flush button on some newer models--should be held for at LEAST 3 seconds following urine only, at least 7 seconds following solids. That's to make sure enough water goes down behind the flush to rinse out the system, especially the pump. But because the water flow is so skimpy--too skimpy to completely fill the hoses, I've always recommended flushing a full bowl of clean water through once a day, and especially before the boat will sit, to clean out the hoses and the vacuum pump.
What you are saying sounds great. However, if I followed what you are suggesting my black water tank would be filled in less than half the time it currently takes. May as well just stay hooked to the dock. I prefer to stay hooked with my anchor.
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What you are saying sounds great. However, if I followed what you are suggesting my black water tank would be filled in less than half the time it currently takes. May as well just stay hooked to the dock. I prefer to stay hooked with my anchor.
Based in Eugene, where are you boating? Not the ocean, I take it?
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Here you are, have a look at page six - Clearing Discharge Lines...
That is great but does not have anything to do with my problem. That is a maintenance procedure.
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:33 PM   #27
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Based in Eugene, where are you boating? Not the ocean, I take it?
Mostly Columbia River. Just got back from trip up river from Portland to Tri-cities area. Great trip. Also go west to Astoria. Up to San Juans.
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That is great but does not have anything to do with my problem. That is a maintenance procedure.
That was to do with Peggie's post #21 since she was asked where the documentation was for her statement and for the use of others.

Since my dowel trick didn't help sounds like your plug is actually in the hoses, to me looks like two choices, do as post #4 suggest or pull the hoses of till you find the clog.
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With some water in the head, the water feed shut off, the pedal down (valve open) and the vacuum pump on, try flexing, bending, squeezing, and tapping with a rubber mallet the hose between the head and the vacuum pump. As long as there is vacuum to pull, you may be able to get some water movement past the blockage to start eroding it. With water going by the blockage, you may then be able to use one of the chemicals.

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With some water in the head, the water feed shut off, the pedal down (valve open) and the vacuum pump on, try flexing, bending, squeezing, and tapping with a rubber mallet the hose between the head and the vacuum pump. As long as there is vacuum to pull, you may be able to get some water movement past the blockage to start eroding it. With water going by the blockage, you may then be able to use one of the chemicals.


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Great. Now the problem is you have to be 3 foot tall and skinnier than Twiggy to get to those hoses. I cuss the jack ass who designed my boat regularly.
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Here you are, have a look at page six - Clearing Discharge Lines...
You might want to read those instructions again....they have nothing to do with clearing a clog...they're instructions for "laundering" the system (washing out all the waste residue that flushing doesn't) before the boat will sit for an extended period in an effort to prevent the hoses from permeating.
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Maybe turning off the system and opening the toilet and putting a wet vac on the opening. If that doesn't get the turd/tp ,then remove the hose at the pump and go from that end,and add water to the bowl as you suck it through the hose. Would put some sort of acid /scale remover thru the hose as you possibly have a build up of calcium from pee.
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something like that happened 2 months ago I had the Vac tank crack,
replace and all is well
i think you have to get dirty Just get it as dry and clean as possible before disconnecting the hoses
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Maybe turning off the system and opening the toilet and putting a wet vac on the opening. If that doesn't get the turd/tp ,then remove the hose at the pump and go from that end,and add water to the bowl as you suck it through the hose. Would put some sort of acid /scale remover thru the hose as you possibly have a build up of calcium from pee.
Thanks. That's a great idea. Wet vac sucking backwards. Will need to take the line at the suction tank off to do that. Don't want to collapse and crack it. I put my wet vac on a stout 5 gallon bucket once. Completely collapsed it. Generates quite a lot of suction.
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