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Old 06-14-2019, 05:14 PM   #1
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One Head or Two for 45' or less Boats?

So I'm looking at the website for the new Nordhavn 41. It has one head. My Cherubini 45 has one full and one half. While there are many 2 and 3 stateroom boats that sleep a dozen including 2 on the dining table, that need 2 full heads, how many do you need for a 1 or 2 staterooms forward boat? More may be better, but I keep viewing my master stateroom half head, and wonder how awesome a closet I could make out of it. It's not going to happen, but I'm curious what you think about more storage or more head.

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Old 06-14-2019, 05:40 PM   #2
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I have 40' sport fish sedan with a single head for the two forward berths. I wouldn't want another one. In addition to loss of usable space, it's an additional maintenance item (and a gross one at that).

I think layout has as much to do with it as anything else. Some of the layouts with the master at stern and a v-berth seem to make more sense having two heads.
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Old 06-14-2019, 05:49 PM   #3
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Having just had a toilet shit itself last week I was grateful for the second one being available while I waited a week for parts to arrive.
All up and running again.
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Having just had a toilet shit itself last week I was grateful for the second one being available while I waited a week for parts to arrive.
All up and running again.
As with a single engine boat, I would expect to have every part that can break or wear out, in the spares department on the boat. For most heads, that would be about 2 shoeboxes worth of space.

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Master and second stateroom on SCOUT. One head. Already a TON of storage, but I wouldn't give up any of it for another head.

I have the two shoeboxes worth of spares.....
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We have 2 staterooms and 2 heads. We want both of each. There are times even with just the 2 of us that we use both heads. 95% of the time we only use the aft head if it is just us, but there are times when things get urgent that we do use both heads. When we have guests both heads get used.
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As with a single engine boat, I would expect to have every part that can break or wear out, in the spares department on the boat. For most heads, that would be about 2 shoeboxes worth of space.

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Plenty of spares for engine, genset , electronics
I have a second toilet as a spare but, now I also have a box full of bits x 2 for them as well.
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:17 PM   #8
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1.5. I simply think having the second sink and toilet is worth it. One shower is livable.
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Our last boat was one stateroom, convertible dinette, one bath. One of the reasons for upgrading was to have real guest space. Now we have two staterooms with private ensuite baths. Do we have guests often enough to need it? Not at all.....but when we do.....it’s really nice to not share the head. Hindsight being 20/20, we should have made one of the heads composting when we replaced them both two years ago.....but we didn’t know then what we know now.

Bottom line.....to me...two is better than one.
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We have 2 staterooms and 2 heads. We want both of each. There are times even with just the 2 of us that we use both heads. 95% of the time we only use the aft head if it is just us, but there are times when things get urgent that we do use both heads. When we have guests both heads get used.
Certainly in a fore and aft cabin boat, one head is probably not realistic if you have to go during the night.

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Old 06-14-2019, 07:33 PM   #11
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Two staterooms and two heads . . . plus acres of storage. (Thank you, Art.). Would not change this.

When we replaced the heads, we plumbed the master stateroom to a Purasan—not to a holding tank. This saved a long hose run to the forward holding tank, greatly reduced pump outs and is legal in most of the areas we boat in. When we’re in non-discharge areas, the forward head is still plumbed to the holding tank.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:01 PM   #12
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Liveaboard like 2 heads, when one is broke and you gotta go.


Heads candy have. A lot if storage space and still be a functional head.


Everything on smaller boats is a trade-off. .. I am keeping a second head which is neither a lot more work or gross.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:03 PM   #13
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Two. We have been through multiple head failures and would not have less. One new electric and one nearly new manual. No working head is a cruise stopper. Granted we could all use a bucket as last resort but who want to depend on that plan.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:28 PM   #14
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Blessed art thou with an RV head in thy boat - one is all you need!
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It is interesting to compare to earth dwellings. It would be difficult to imagine a 500 sf apartment with two bathrooms but many 40'-50' boats have two heads. People are shy about using the head, personally I feel that adults should recognize that everybody poops. Having a well maintained head with adequate spares to keep thing running is my preference but I can understand others wanting some privacy and reserve the reserve capacity of a second head. Every boat is a compromise and personal values are important to consider.
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I think this one comes down to personal preference, and boat useage. If you are a solo cruiser 90% of the time, with occaisional significant other accompanyment, a single is probably fine. If you are usually a couple and have other couples along on a regular basis, two would be better. If you are 5 twenty something, beer drinking guys doing day trips.....a bucket might be sufficient ( just in case both scuppers are occupied )
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:57 PM   #17
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Two staterooms (plus dinette that makes a dbl) and two heads with seperate showers- and they all are getting used Has the orig Galley Maid toilets with huge pumps and tons of lines, and uses lots of water - all coming out soon to be replaced with Raritan Marine Elegance per advice of the Head Mistress.
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Our last 40í sailboat had two cabins, two wheels, and two heads. We did have one occasion when one head failed and we were glad we had the second. However, when I replaced the failed head with one with a decent design, we never worried about failure again.

My current 43í trawler has two cabins, two helm stations, and only 1 head. I donít miss the second head. Iím much happier having the extra space than having precious boat real estate taken up with a head. Granted, the most we have had on the boat for an extended period was 5 adults.

My ďif I only could afford a new boat it would be....Ē boat is the North Pacific 45. This is offered with several layouts. At least one has a separate head in the master cabin. I would NOT select this layout. It sacrifices storage just for another place to relieve yourself and brush your teeth. Even though Iím old and have a prostate the size of a grapefruit, I donít spend enough time in the head to make it worth the space.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:58 AM   #19
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Our last boat and our present boat (both 42') both had two heads. Having a spare is really nice when something goes wrong. I wouldn't want to cruise with just one again unless I was soloing it. It's possible for sure, but it sure takes a lot of stress out to have two, especially with guests aboard.
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The second head on our boat is wonderful marital stress reliever- even with infrequent synchronous use of both. If you have a second person, i.e. spouse, on the boat, living aboard for even a few days at a time, I would go with their preference.
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