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Old 06-13-2013, 02:34 AM   #1
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How strong are your doors and windows

The Coot's doors and windows seem to be over-built compared to most other recreational boats. Still, I don't regret them.





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Old 06-13-2013, 06:17 AM   #2
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The rest of the question is "how strong is the structure the doors and windows are mounted in ?"

The reinforcement of the joint between PH and the vessels deck is also a concern.

Imagine the vessel being picked up and dropped on its side , a breaking wave coming aboard is moving so might have more force.

Wonder why blue water boats cost 3X brown water , this is part of the answer.

Remember the engine and everything else has to stay in place during a wave hit..
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Imagine the vessel being picked up and dropped on its side , a breaking wave coming aboard is moving so might have more force.

Remember the engine and everything else has to stay in place during a wave hit..
Until the "big one" splits the San Andreas fault there isn't much chance of breaking waves on the rivers and inland waters around that area.

Plywood and drywall screws could be used to build safe and dependable boats for the bay and delta.
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Yes the Coot is built more solidly than most of the rest of us. More Diesel Duck-ish in finishing touches.

Mark - I hope that is an old photo and you don't still have the delivery plastic covers on your seats.
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1/2 temper glass windows up front I don't every want to have to patch up one in storm.
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Yes the Coot is built more solidly than most of the rest of us. More Diesel Duck-ish in finishing touches.

Mark - I hope that is an old photo and you don't still have the delivery plastic covers on your seats.
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I have been told that these windows were knocked in many years ago coming into the bay when it was prawning.
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I have been told that these windows were knocked in many years ago coming into the bay when it was prawning.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:46 AM   #9
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The door on my boat (GB) is built similarly to an average house door nothing special and I doubt it is robust. That said, I haven't heard of a GB having any issues with it. If I was in the market for an ocean crosser then I will accept the compromise to have an ugly robust door that looks like it belongs in a submarine. They should make these doors to where it can take a wood veneer on the inside. Just sayin.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:37 AM   #10
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The Diamond Seaglaze doors and windows on our Nordic Tug are very solid. It is amazing how quiet it is inside once we close them. We often get comments from people when they come aboard and see the stern door from the cockpit (the one we use the most). Makes the boat feel like a small ship, but I hope to never find out just how strong they are.
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:33 PM   #11
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Mark - I hope that is an old photo and you don't still have the delivery plastic covers on your seats.
The first two photos were taken before the Coot was shipped to the States.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:52 PM   #12
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Plywood and drywall screws could be used to build safe and dependable boats for the bay and delta.
Please tell us more about your SF Bay experience and safe boat-building theories.
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:13 PM   #13
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Maybe Rick is eluding to the San Fransisco Pelican. Certainly known for its rough water capabilities...
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Please tell us more about your SF Bay experience and safe boat-building theories.
More than a few years of sailing in and out of the Bay to Oakland, Hunters Point, Richmond and through Carquinez in all weather and seasons.

There isn't a lot of heavy seas or white water on the rivers around that area so paddeling a cement trough would probably work just as well as a steel hulled boat with forward slanted windows and ocean rated doors on the days when toyboat drivers venture out.

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For those into electric propulsion, take a look at this one. It's the best of both worlds, built of plywood and you can use the screwdriver to power it when you are done!

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Mark, Coot's doors and windows will be well suited if you find yourself in rough conditions when we exit the gate. If my boat goes down due to its flimsy doors and windows, it's comforting to know you'll be there still floating for the rescue.
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The Coot's doors and windows seem to be over-built compared to most other recreational boats. Still, I don't regret them.






Why would anybody regret over-built doors and windows?
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Who said anything about "overbuilt" doors and windows? Not me.

I just said that a cement trough or something built of plywood and drywall screws would serve quite well in the inland waters of the Sacramento delta, Carquinez Strait, and SF Bay in the conditions most toyboaters choose to recreate.

If you really want "bragging rights" or need assurance you can survive anything the river can throw at you, there might be a USCG 47'MLB on the market some day. Or if you want to project a real manly image, you can grab one of these right now:

For Sale- TYNES
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