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Old 04-30-2015, 05:29 PM   #1
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Head cleaners

Does anyone use Raritan CR for cleaning and odor removal in the head? What else do you recommend?
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:40 PM   #2
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Ms. J. We use Aromx 35 https://swishclean.com/product.htm?P...&Source=Search
We keep a spray bottle of diluted '35 in the heads to be directed in and around the "throne" as needed. The Admiral is quite sensitive to chemicals and solvents but is fine with this stuff. Works quite well. It seems to be a Canadian product but the website lists an outlet in Vancouver, BC. Swish Vancouver Location
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Awesome cleaner. $1.00 @ Dollar General stores. Use diluted or full strength. DO NOT ALLOW it on glass surface in full strength mode; will etch glass.
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I haven't tried it but I understand that Raritan CP was developed by Peggie Hall, the Head Mistress. Peggie is a true expert on marine sanitation systems. I would certainly give it a try.
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Old 05-01-2015, 06:21 AM   #5
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Most of the head odor is from things in a sea water flush dieing in the bowl.

Inshore where water is available using a fresh water flush is one cure.

IF you use FW and there is a head smell, its usually time to upgrade the discharge hoses.
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I haven't tried it but I understand that Raritan CP was developed by Peggie Hall, the Head Mistress. Peggie is a true expert on marine sanitation systems. I would certainly give it a try.

Yep, and if using an aerobic treatment like Raritan's (Peggie's) KO, a compatible product like CP is appropriate.

I would expect CP is likely compatible with other aerobic treatments like Odorlos, as well, but perhaps Peggie will jump in and confirm or deny.

We've used CP (and KO) for almost 20 years... with excellent results.

More recently, some of our owners group have begun singing the praises of Zaal Noflex Digestor for the treatment product. Have no clue how it works, but I've begun trying it (mostly just out of curiosity), and it seems to be effective as a holding tank treatment. Many of the other folks have described the magic, with claims about clean hoses, clean tanks, etc... but I'm not seeing as many claims that they've actually physically opened up their systems to eyeball the insides of hoses and tanks. IOW, I'm only seeing it seems viable.

The one instance where I did actually see some slight proof it works is in the very bottom of our bowl. We'd had some significant discoloration there, inherited from the original owner... and letting some Noflex work on that area before flushing did significantly return the bottom of the bowl to white. OTOH, I never before thought to just let some KO or CP stand in that area, so don't know if it wouldn't have done equally well in the first place.

The Noflex marketing system is a pain in the a$$. The only retailors seem to be in the PNW... and they apparently haven't figured out USPS flat rate boxes yet... so each bottle of powder costs something like $20 and then shipping is something like $17/bottle on top of that. Shipping is slightly less per bottle when ordering 3-4 or more at a time, but I suspect USPS flat rate charges would be friendlier.

IOW, KO is cheaper, since it's (at least) at the local West Marine.

But Parks, you might look into it, see if there's a marketing opportunity for you. Especially if you know how to do USPS flat rate boxes, but maybe because UPS or FedEx shipping charges from this coast might be useful for many of us over here on the right side.

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If you have fresh water heads, then the manufacturer's recommendation should be consulted first ( the case with sea water as well, but sea water has more cleaning and odor issues). It's not so much a matter of the effect on the bowls themselves, but all the pumps and mechanisms and tanks downstream from there. Our Vacuflush was happy with household toilet bowl cleaners. Every now and then, about monthly, we'd run a slug distilled white vinegar through them. No smells on our boat!
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According to the MSDS, Noflex Digester looks to be very similar to Oxyclean. I wonder if we have any chemists that might take a look. A tub of Oxyclean is quite a bit cheaper.
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+1 for CP

I believe it is the only cleaner approved for use with Raritan's Lectrasan, Electroscan and Purasan systems.
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According to the MSDS, Noflex Digester looks to be very similar to Oxyclean. I wonder if we have any chemists that might take a look. A tub of Oxyclean is quite a bit cheaper.

Interesting! How'd you happen to notice that?

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I searched on the main ingredient and came up with OxyClean.
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Ah, got it.


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Oxy Clean huh? Now can anyone tell me if OC will harm that colony of microbes that everyone wants growing in their holding tank? We're going to be leaving our boat for a short while would like to have the "throne" and hoses clean and flushed in our absence BUT not at the expense of "killing" the denizens of our holding tank.
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Oxy Clean huh? Now can anyone tell me if OC will harm that colony of microbes that everyone wants growing in their holding tank? We're going to be leaving our boat for a short while would like to have the "throne" and hoses clean and flushed in our absence BUT not at the expense of "killing" the denizens of our holding tank.

That's what I'd be worried about... but I have the same questions about the Noflex stuff, too. Not sure, even from their literature, how that stuff works with (or against?) aerobic bacteria.

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Found a post by Ms. Peggy Hall from 2009. She doesn't think Noflex would be detrimental... Noflex Digestor Sewage Treatment
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Similar to other notes I've found on line; comments about what it's NOT like, not much mention of what it IS like.


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It seems like OxyClean has been tried out by the RV community with at best, mixed results. It appears to create an alkaline environment not conducive to keeping the bacteria working. Might be useful for cleaning and keeping sensors unplugged, but not as a regular treatment. I think I will stick with Odorloss.

I wonder what Noflex does differently?
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Some time ago, I came across an article called www.TheGeoMethod re cleaning out holding tanks/systems. It involves water softner/detergent use in a holding tank system. Altho' a bit skeptical, I gave it a try, as we were having odor problems while flushing. It has worked very well in our Californian for the last several years.
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I'm looking for a Dealer on the upper East coast there are two in Florida.
Ask me any questions you have on Noflex.
Tuesday i will register on site as a commercial interest but i'm also a boater and my tanks used to stink too.
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