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12-13-2013, 09:02 PM
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Guru
City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,093
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Sure can tell who the old blow boaters are on this forum...waste basket and plastic zip-lock bags. Give me a break! We have never experienced a stoppage with the two manual marine toilets aboard. Use the proper amount of water and marine TP and voila!
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"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
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12-13-2013, 09:55 PM
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Guru
City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
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We've used Quilted Northern for years without a problem.
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1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
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12-13-2013, 10:41 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend, WA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,576
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We have two Vacuflush heads and follow the PO's advice as well as another trawler owner with the same systems: Scott one-ply. We use it just like a land toilet. After many years (including the PO's use) no clogs in either head.
The interesting observation I made (well at least I deemed it interesting) was that this one-ply TP has somewhat stronger tensile strength than the typical "soft" two-ply. Doesn't tear as easily at all, yet still dissolves very quickly in the bowl.
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12-13-2013, 11:21 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Reminds me. Next time on the boat, Mark, clean the toilet. (The bowl looked bad today.)
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12-13-2013, 11:37 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
Sure can tell who the old blow boaters are on this forum...
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I'm guilty!
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12-14-2013, 02:00 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Full time liveaboard with plenty of unknowledgeable guests and a girlfriend living aboard who uses the head quite often.
NEVER has there been an issue with clogging.
Just use a rapidly dissolving tissue or RV/Marine kind and tell people to be carefull...flush 2x if necessary.
If I had to put used TP in a ziplock...I'd go back to primitive camping and slit trenches...
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Couldn't agree more. In fact having had to use a Porta-potti for years in our trailer yachts, and living with the inevitable smell, one of the real pluses of going trawler was the headroom and the proper head. However, just after I replaced the old manual head with an electric one. I got some special, so-called quick-dissolving RV type T/P, and guess what - for the first and only time it clogged. Got it clear fortunately without dismantling it all, but ever since we have just used the nice soft stuff we use at home and no problems. No way am I having pooey smelly used T/P floating round in my boat, even in a zip-lock..!
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12-14-2013, 04:53 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B
Couldn't agree more. In fact having had to use a Porta-potti for years in our trailer yachts, and living with the inevitable smell, one of the real pluses of going trawler was the headroom and the proper head. However, just after I replaced the old manual head with an electric one. I got some special, so-called quick-dissolving RV type T/P, and guess what - for the first and only time it clogged. Got it clear fortunately without dismantling it all, but ever since we have just used the nice soft stuff we use at home and no problems. No way am I having pooey smelly used T/P floating round in my boat, even in a zip-lock..!
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Even though I posted marine/rv TP...I agree that there are some "better" /quicker to dissolve papers out there....
But till someone is sure...the RV/Marine stiff definitely tears easier.
I think the studies have been that Charmin anything is tough to dissolve/shred and till you find one that does...at least ..the 4X more expensive stuff is a little piece of mind.
Butt to be fair (no pun intended)...after being in some public restrooms and seeing what is clogging the toilet....maybe there are some people with potential head problems.
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12-14-2013, 08:34 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,266
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
NEVER has there been an issue with clogging.
Just use a rapidly dissolving tissue or RV/Marine kind and tell people to be carefull...flush 2x if necessary.
If I had to put used TP in a ziplock...I'd go back to primitive camping and slit trenches...
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YES, what a great post!!!!!
I have had several Raritan brand type 1 MSD's on my boats over the years and have never had a problem.
Before I learned about type 1 MSD's I had a macerator and never had a problem.
This has been with a variety of heads, from manual Jabsco cheapo units, to Raritan macerating units, to the ones I have now Sealand Vacuflush units.
There is NO WAY I'd ever use, or expect my guests to use a zip lock bag. GROSS! GROSS! GROSS!
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12-14-2013, 10:14 AM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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I have an electric Jabsco QuietFlush. Before installing, I spoke with a Jabsco engineer and asked this question. He told me to save my money and just use Scott single ply from any grocery store. He also mentioned the water jar test as a good way to verify tp suitability.
TP in plastic bags? Not on my boat. When I have sailboater guests, I have to emphasize the need to FLUSH the paper. Then they almost without fail challenge that guidance.
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12-14-2013, 10:36 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,565
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Greetings,
If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down. You should have gone before we left home!
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12-14-2013, 10:45 AM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,378
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I never have used anything but regular TP on any of my boats. T
The only time we have had a issue was a few years ago on the sea ray when my nephew decided to have a epic movement and use most of a roll for cleanup. I always instruct guests on the careful use of TP.. and remind them that we have a standing rule aboard.. " You plug it ..you unplug it ".
That seems to leave a impression on them.
HOLLYWOOD
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12-14-2013, 10:45 AM
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Guru
City: Sidney BC Canada
Vessel Name: RochePoint
Vessel Model: 1985 Cheer Men PT38 Sedan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,744
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We have been boating for over 45 years and this is the first time we have ever heard of used TP being put in ziplock bags. We have always flushed it to the holding tank and have never had a clog. We use the same TP on the boat as we use at home, our Vacuflush doesn't care. The only time we ever had a clog, was in a duckbill valve in the Vacuflush pump was when an object with a string attached was flushed. I don't think they believed me about the head rules..............
PS. We where sailors for 20 years.
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12-14-2013, 11:17 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,565
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Greetings,
Someone flushed a KITE?
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12-14-2013, 11:18 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Can't believe I clicked on the thread about ass wipe.
For the record I agree w Giggitoni except I know nothing about blowboaters. We buy marine stuff and flush it w confidence. Our electric head has it's own masserator and never a problem.
RT Firefly you've got to be joking!
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-14-2013, 11:37 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Don't know when toilet paper in the bag became something that some people do. However, I wonder if it was done before United States required holding tanks.
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12-14-2013, 11:43 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,121
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This thread seems a bit anal to me!!
Have always used single ply regular TP. No problems over many years with both manual Raritan and electric heads. Everything goes through the macerator. No problem. Biggest risk of blockage is one of the captain's logs!! Anyway, what do people do with the stinky paper if it is not flushed???
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12-14-2013, 11:59 AM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
. . . . flush it w confidence. !
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Now, that's a real man for you!
I have the Fergusen Al Bundy model on Moonstruck.
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12-14-2013, 12:34 PM
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#38
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Guru
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksanders
[B][U]There is NO WAY I'd ever use, or expect my guests to use a zip lock bag. GROSS! GROSS! GROSS!
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Amen!!
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Careful . . .I Have a Generator and I'm not afraid to use it !
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12-14-2013, 12:48 PM
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Senior Member
City: Deltaville, VA
Vessel Name: Cork
Vessel Model: Halvorsen GC32
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 120
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I never said I allowed the guests to use the head. The plastic bag was the wife's idea so why fight it.
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12-14-2013, 03:57 PM
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Guru
City: Clayton, NC
Vessel Name: Silver Lining
Vessel Model: Heritage East 44 / Twin Perkins T6.3544
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 758
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We've got late teen girls. Sorry but that species of "human" is a horrific paper consumer. We were forced to institute the ziplock rule due to necessity. Might be gross, but so is endoscopy on a macerator pump.
The kids wonder why we stay in port so much when they're aboard...
Perhaps one day when the kids are past the larval stage...
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