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Old 03-23-2012, 05:33 AM   #1
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Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

Hey guys, *Im going to be deciding on a

holding tank

type 1 (free electo scan, needs some repair)

Type 2 unit most likely the ahead unit or a unit produced by sevin marine.

*Any body use the raritan electro scan unit with any sucess? * I'm not in a marina so pump out is not an option. *I would like to think I am going to be going out past the 3 mile limit but more often then not I'll be rolling around the coast here with some trips to the barrier islands.*
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:44 AM   #2
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RE: Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

I know it sounds weird but there are also composting heads. I've heard and read positive things, don't know if I'm ready to "go" there yet though!
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:45 AM   #3
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I might be wrong, but from what I remember, the 3 mile out thing starts measuring from Ship Island and not from the beach in Gulfport/Biloxi area.
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RE: Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

I've installed and used electro-scan units on my last two boats.

I would not have a boat without a waste processing system.

These are relativly easy to install and are fantastic to have on board. The tech support at Raritan is top notch.

On our latest boat we installed a hold n treat system with a purasan. this gives us the ability to hold waste in a small tank where mandated, and to treat and discharge it where its legal. It also works with our two vacuflush heads.

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Old 03-23-2012, 07:53 AM   #5
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RE: Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

I've never used one but Raritan has been making treatment systems for a very long time now. First the Electro San and now the improved Electro Scan. The very early Electro San had some problems but I haven't heard any complaints in many years. I think they've got it figured out. Raritan are nice folks to deal with as well. If you decide to buy a new one, I'd like the opportunity to quote you on it.
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I might be wrong, but from what I remember, the 3 mile out thing starts measuring from Ship Island and not from the beach in Gulfport/Biloxi area.
No, I believe your right. *That is why I would like to go with a processing system. *$3-$4k for a microphor system seams like a lot.*
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:32 AM   #7
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RE: Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

We have a 4 person Microphor for when out an about, and a 55 gallon tank for when in the marina which is 99.9% of the time.* There is a Y valve to switch from the Microphor to the holding tank The old Everett Marina has a pump out boat that comes each week to pumps the tank out and the New Everett marina has a pump out at each dock.*
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The Microphor requires not electricity as it uses the natural bacteria in the waste, like a septic tank, and a chlorine chamber the waste passes through before over board.* the system is all gravity feed.* So all you have to do is start using it.* However when I know we are not going to use it for a long period of time I do rinse it out.*
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RE: Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

These systems are not cheap and also note, they are not legal everywhere. Mobile Bay used to be a zero discharge zone and believe it still is. That means ZERO. Not even spit can go overboard. You can 't even wash your boat in Mobile Bay. If you are going to process your waste, it is best to have another "Y" valve to give you the choice of 'overboard discharge' or send it to your waste tank.
Anyway, I'm through talking s**t. Have a nice day. LOL
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:39 AM   #9
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Paul

I'm offshore at work right now and this platform has a lot of sites blocked. Photo Bucket is one of them.
When I get back on land, I will look up your site and see your progress.
We are litterally at the very tail end of this wet mess that you are in the middle of. Can't seem to get anything done with all the rain.
Stay Dry
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:47 AM   #10
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RE: Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

Ksanders, I looked up the raritan hold and treat. This is exactly what i'm looking for. I have an old raritan unit but with the holding tank I think that will be perfect. Tony, this rain has got me back on the boat. I've been working pretty steady lately (construction 6 days a week) haven't had much time for the ol' girl. Rain got me back in the engine room. I'm going to try to run my old free raritan box and see if it works, finish working out the bugs on my genset port and hopefully crank one of the mains today. I better get to work instead of talking about it.
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At our cottage in CT , as we are lake front a new septic field is verboten, and the hook up to the city is over 20K with never ending monthly bills.

We installed a Natures Head , as many many boats do and it is great.

No mess , no smell, and under a boat buck , delivered.

Would not hesitate to install one in a boat , would be great in FL or on the loop, as both have no discharge areas where the msd would be illegal to use.
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The composting heads I've seen separate liquids (urine) from solids which compost. What happens to the liquid?
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RE: Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

Anypne know what actually goes on in an electro-san unit?* It seems to me that they generate a little clorine from electric and sea water.* Macerate the stuff and pump it overboard within the regs.

What would be different if your holding tank received macerated poop, and pumped it overboard through another macerator.... and if you added some clorine bleach and let it sit a few hours before you pumped..????

Seems to me you have a manual lectra-san.

What am I missing?
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*USCG approval.
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I have a Microphor system which is*an aerobic bacterial composting system which works flawlessly.* The down side is the size of the composting tank which takes up considerable*space in the engine room.* In something larger than a 40' boat or a single engine 40' foot boat, it would be great.*

But it's still a great system and still Coast Guard approved after 35 years.

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*USCG approval.

*sort of...the way I read the reg one time I thought that if the effluent met the "standard" then you were OK...I know the device is supposed to meet USCG approval...but I saw it as a catch 22 item for them.

I'll have to reread it tomorrow..just wanted to see if anyone was really up on the subject.


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RE: Electo scan, microphor processor or tank

KSanders - The Raritan Hold n' Treat sounds like what I'm looking for too.* But I have an issue finding a very low spot for the combo tank.* How critical is it that the top of the tank unit is below the head?
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I would suspect Rick is correct as I have a letter of*approval for my Microphor system which extends the certification to October 2013 and says in part,*

US Coast Guard, Commanding *officer, USCG, Marine Safety Center.*

USCG Recertification of type II Maine Sanitation Device (MSD)

Given no modifications have been made, the models specified below continue to meet the requirement of Title 33,*Code of Federal Regulations DFR, Part 159 and shall be labeled in accordance with 33 CFR 159.16.

Then it lists the Models approved,*Certification No.*and Expiration Dates.*

Signed by Lt. Commander T.E. Meyers, USCG, Engineering Division

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http://www.natureshead.net/marine.html

USCG Certified!

The Nature's Head composting toilet meets all "No Discharge" regulations and is a U.S Coast Guard Approved type III marine head. USCG Certification
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I would suspect Rick is correct as I have a letter of*approval for my Microphor system which extends the certification to October 2013 and says in part,*

US Coast Guard, Commanding *officer, USCG, Marine Safety Center.*

USCG Recertification of type II Maine Sanitation Device (MSD)

Given no modifications have been made, the models specified below continue to meet the requirement of Title 33,*Code of Federal Regulations DFR, Part 159 and shall be labeled in accordance with 33 CFR 159.16.

Then it lists the Models approved,*Certification No.*and Expiration Dates.*

Signed by Lt. Commander T.E. Meyers, USCG, Engineering Division

Larry B
*Yeah...just did some rereading...it discusses the standard which isn't hard to meet...but then does say that they have to be certified...doesn't mean I couldn't apply for certification... it's not worth the hassel but sure would make life easier sometimes!

*Just wish the states would spend some of their boating money on installing, fixing and maintaining pumpout systems.


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