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Old 01-08-2011, 04:04 PM   #1
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Cutting hose-ends square

I try to cut the ends of new hoses clean and square. Short pieces can be cut on a mandril in my lathe, but anything over 14" long has to be done with knife and eye. This seldom results in a square end, especially when cutting waste hose with spiral nylon reinforcement. Google has only turned up variations of scissors and guilotines,* both of which squash the hose first and will (I think) produce an out-of-square end. A chop-saw will cut the black steel-reinforced hose, but it melts anything plastic. A device based on a tubing cutter with a mandril inside the end of the tube might work. Any ideas?

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Old 01-08-2011, 04:10 PM   #2
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I try to cut the ends of new hoses clean and square. ...Any ideas?
When I have access to one when I want to cut a hose I use a bandsaw.* On the boat I use one of those hose-cutting tools, the kind with a handle and a blade attached to a pivot that you squeeze to bring pressure onto the hose.* I have found that by putting on a small amount of pressure and then rotating the tool around the hose I can cut thruough it without compressing the hose itself, and the cut comes out very "square."

But the bandsaw is best.* I just don't often have access to one when I have to cut a hose.

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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

Mike: I've used one these for cutting waste hose and even 2/00 battery cables. You can re-sharpen the blade or buy replacements. I'm not sure about the steel reinforced hose.

http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/PC1250-P...r/EN/index.htm

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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

If cutting the hose with a handsaw, I'd first run a strip of painter's tape around the hose to mark the cut.* Once satisfied with the squareness of the tape, use it to guide your cut.
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:08 PM   #5
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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

Ive always had good luck with a serrated knife. So if you don't have the right saw or other tool blade, a quick trip to any Dollar Store for* a serrated knife can save the day.
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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

Peggie,
Those things ALWAYS cut crocked. I hate them. But they saw good.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:36 PM   #7
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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

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If I know how long the hose should be ahead of time I'll cut it on the horizontal bandsaw in my shop.

When I'm on the boat I do this -

I buy the cheapest little plastic yellow miter box I can find - usually 6 or 7 bucks at a place like Ace. I cut the hose in the miter box using a nice rigid (small r - not a brand name) square tube hack saw with a fine blade.

I use KY jelly to lubricate the blade. Easy to wash off, and really speeds the cutting up. I just clamp the hose with my free hand.

If it's a big project I just throw the miter box out when I'm done - they don't last long, but it does give a nice almost square cut.

As square as hose needs to be anyway.

Works for me.

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Make that vote #2 for the cheap miter box and a hack saw. *Pipe cutter pliers are great too- that is typically what I use.
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Old 01-09-2011, 01:43 AM   #8
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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

I second the recommendation for the pvc pipe cutter.
Mine is redline brand they come in two sizes to cover various size pipe works a treat
cuts square only 1 reservation later model ones seem to have gone to plastic for the frame mines cast metal and durable dont know how the plastic frame works out.
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:03 AM   #9
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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

This is what I use:
http://www.handsontools.com/Allied-3...ar_p_2567.html

Works great on any hose, rope, etc.

Here are a couple of others.

http://www.handsontools.com/Lisle-11...er_p_2482.html

http://www.handsontools.com/SG-Tool-...er_p_2485.html
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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

Mike, it looks like lots of good ideas for getting a square cut, but I wonder why it needs to be so perfect.* I would think, that unless it's really out of square to the point you can't double clamp it, it makes little difference.* Still, there are some good ideas here........Arctic Traveller
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Mike, it looks like lots of good ideas for getting a square cut, but I wonder why it needs to be so perfect.* I would think, that unless it's really out of square to the point you can't double clamp it, it makes little difference.* Still, there are some good ideas here........Arctic Traveller
Glad someone else ask this as I am wondering the same thing.

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"Glad someone else ask this as I am wondering the same thing."

Yes. I guess one can make a project out of any task.
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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

Thanks to all who responded; plenty of food for thought. The tool I thought might exist apparently doesn't.*

The last three posts ask why it has to be "so perfect". My requirement is "clean and square", in other words to good engineering practice. That includes bolts and hose clamps of the correct length,*cable ties with the ends clipped off and screw-driver slots lined up. It may be a tad childish, but I get satisfaction out of looking at a finished job done to the best of my ability.
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Thanks to all who responded; plenty of food for thought. The tool I thought might exist apparently doesn't.*

The last three posts ask why it has to be "so perfect". My requirement is "clean and square", in other words to good engineering practice. That includes bolts and hose clamps of the correct length,*cable ties with the ends clipped off and screw-driver slots lined up. It may be a tad childish, but I get satisfaction out of looking at a finished job done to the best of my ability.
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The last three posts ask why it has to be "so perfect". My requirement is "clean and square", in other words to good engineering practice. That includes bolts and hose clamps of the correct length,*cable ties with the ends clipped off and screw-driver slots lined up. It may be a tad childish, but I get satisfaction out of looking at a finished job done to the best of my ability.
I used to work with a mechanical/automotive engineer Brit who was an ex Cat rep, car builder, etc.; a really serious, knowledgeable guy.* He showed me a photo of a working steam engine model he had built.* I commented on the fact that all the screw heads were lined up in unison.* "Full marks for you, mate!" he said, beaming.

The fact that somebody noticed absolutely made his day. So, I can relate.




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Cutting hose-ends square

I have not thought about cutting them square if there is enough room to get two hose clamps on, so what is the diff its square of not square?***Shoot most of the time I am just happy to cut the hose and get the hose on/off without cutting/hurting myself.


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Shoalwaters wrote:That includes bolts and hose clamps of the correct length,*cable ties with the ends clipped off and screw-driver slots lined up. It may be a tad childish, but I get satisfaction out of looking at a finished job done to the best of my ability.
Does that also include filing the ends of clipped cable ties?* I can't believe how razor sharp that plastic can be.* I try to file them if I can, but at a minimum I'll take something blunt like a pair of pliers, and pound on the sharp corners to dull them.* I'm tired of cutting myself on the stupid things.............Arctic Traveller
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some see the glass as half empty
some see the glass as half full
engineers see an oversized container
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RE: Cutting hose-ends square

Try cutting wire ties with side cutters designed to cut plastics.* Very sharp, no bevel on one side, leaves wire tie ends square with no points.

McMaster and most tool retailers will sell them:



<h3 class="PrsnttnNm">Plastic-Cutting Pliers</h3>






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Designed for cutting plastics, these extremely sharp pliers make a flush cut that leaves a smooth, finished edge. Not intended for cutting metal or wire.
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some see the glass as half full
engineers see an oversized container
Normal people* believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.*
Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it* doesn't have enough features yet.
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