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05-07-2016, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
City: Bellingham, WA
Vessel Name: Excellent Adventure
Vessel Model: 1995 Jefferson Ker Shine 45
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 395
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Combo washer dryer
The boat we are in the process of buying used to have a washer/dryer combo but that was taken out by one of the previous owners. The space and plumbing is still there.
Seeing that it has been almost 20 years since the original w/d combo was installed I assume that they have (maybe) gotten better. Before I use the space for something else does anyone have any insight, comments, experience using the newer w/d combinations? Are they worth putting back into the boat?
The weekly trip to the laundromat gets old quick, especially in lousy weather (and I am lazy).
Thanks
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05-07-2016, 05:56 PM
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Guru
City: Windsor
Vessel Name: Keeper IV
Vessel Model: 44 Viking ACMY
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,350
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We have one . Wouldn't live without it. I would put a new unit in.
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05-07-2016, 06:22 PM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Okisollo
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 783
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If you have room? We put in front loader stacking units
Ted
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05-07-2016, 06:26 PM
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Senior Member
City: Bellingham, WA
Vessel Name: Excellent Adventure
Vessel Model: 1995 Jefferson Ker Shine 45
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 395
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Don't have room for stackables, that would be my first choice. Only have room for a combo type.
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05-07-2016, 07:23 PM
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City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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If that's the case get a vented one. Having a w/d on board is so nice!
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05-07-2016, 07:27 PM
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,142
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I would second the vented one. As I recall, there was a thread sometime back where the same issue came up and several commented that the dyer was much more effective in the vented unit.
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05-07-2016, 07:27 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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We have a 10 year old Splendide combo. The vented unit. This is a 110v unit and we love it. Used almost daily. As with any combo unit to dry clothes you need to remove half of a full load of wash. This is a matter of physics. A wash load can fill the tub, a dry load must leave half the tub empty. With separate units this is accomplished by having a larger tub for the dryer.
A 110v dryer takes a long time. Some folks like 220v units. On most North American boats this means running the generator (or shore power) for both the wash and dry cycles. A lot of generator run time.
With our 110 volt unit we can run the wash cycle on the inverter. This is a real benefit for us. The combo unit wash cycle runs from 60 minutes to 80 minutes depending on whether we run the express or regular cycle.
Water usage is another issue. The regular cycle uses 11 US gallons of water. Less for the express cycle.
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05-08-2016, 07:28 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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"Seeing that it has been almost 20 years since the original w/d combo was installed I assume that they have (maybe) gotten better"
The hassle is weather you are dockside and can provide dryer power for hours on end.
20 years has not changed the amount of energy that is required to evaporate water.
Washing underway with a line drying would be fine , its done all over Euroland on family working boats.
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05-08-2016, 08:04 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,681
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bay Pelican
We have a 10 year old Splendide combo. The vented unit. This is a 110v unit and we love it. Used almost daily. As with any combo unit to dry clothes you need to remove half of a full load of wash. This is a matter of physics. A wash load can fill the tub, a dry load must leave half the tub empty. With separate units this is accomplished by having a larger tub for the dryer.
A 110v dryer takes a long time. Some folks like 220v units. On most North American boats this means running the generator (or shore power) for both the wash and dry cycles. A lot of generator run time.
With our 110 volt unit we can run the wash cycle on the inverter. This is a real benefit for us. The combo unit wash cycle runs from 60 minutes to 80 minutes depending on whether we run the express or regular cycle.
Water usage is another issue. The regular cycle uses 11 US gallons of water. Less for the express cycle.
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What he said. We have the Splendide 2100XC vented model and love it. We use the dryer a lot in winter time just to dry towels after showering. 20 minutes and they're dry. For wet heavy stuff the dryer sucks for the most part but you get use to it. For $1,000, it's worth every penny.
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05-08-2016, 09:37 AM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
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We were fortunate to have stacking Maytag units, 240v, so we got drying performance just like at home in a smaller package. Cruising and living full time on moorings and anchor for long periods of time, we simply combined our laundry use time with things like cooking, charging batteries, dishwasher... that is, during the morning and evening generator time.
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05-08-2016, 10:53 AM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
What he said. We have the Splendide 2100XC vented model and love it. We use the dryer a lot in winter time just to dry towels after showering. 20 minutes and they're dry. For wet heavy stuff the dryer sucks for the most part but you get use to it. For $1,000, it's worth every penny.
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Us too. In fact doing a load now
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05-08-2016, 11:00 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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If you want to look at a faster, although more expensive unit, than Splendide, then Miele is worth looking at. If you have the space and place to install it, then I'd go to some form of traditional stackable units.
Regardless, even the Splendide is so far superior to the option of lugging laundry all around. If typically it was just the two of us, one would be more than adequate and they're great machines.
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05-08-2016, 12:00 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
What he said. We have the Splendide 2100XC vented model and love it. We use the dryer a lot in winter time just to dry towels after showering. 20 minutes and they're dry. For wet heavy stuff the dryer sucks for the most part but you get use to it. For $1,000, it's worth every penny.
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Have one on my boat and am very happy with it.
Trick to boat laundry is think about whether there is a load to do every time you have an extended run on the generator. As soon as you plug in shore power, do laundry. It's a different mind set from living in a house.
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05-08-2016, 12:48 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Have one on my boat and am very happy with it.
Trick to boat laundry is think about whether there is a load to do every time you have an extended run on the generator. As soon as you plug in shore power, do laundry. It's a different mind set from living in a house.
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So true. Don't let it pile up. We're doing the canals right now and do a load of laundry along the way most days plus one at night. Frequent small loads. Makes sorting simpler. The key to the Splendide from the little bit of time we used ours was simply not to overload. The lack of speed with most boaters will not be a problem. It's not as if there is any work for you to do while it washes and dries. Actually less work in a combo unit than traditional, just takes longer. However, the time it takes really is inconsequential.
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05-08-2016, 02:08 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I'll post this once again as a helpful tip to those of you with Splendide washer/dryers. We have one and use it frequently as we live aboard. One time, a little piece of clothing didn't make it all the way through the door when loading the machine. The door closed on it and we started the wash cycle unaware of the stuck piece of clothing. All was well until the level of the water reached the door seal and began leaking out.
We had a bit of a flood before we noticed it. We immediately stopped the machine however the water kept leaking out. Since the machine was stopped mid-cycle, the door was locked and could not be opened. The manual was handy but there was no mention about this kind of incident.
We called Splendide and were lucky enough to get a tech on the phone immediately. Now, should you ever need to open the door mid-cycle, here's what to do;
Remove the kick plate at the bottom of the machine--it pulls off. On the right hand side you will see a string hanging down. Pull the string down and the door will unlock. Suggest you file this away in your Murphy's Law book.
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05-08-2016, 06:44 PM
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Guru
City: kemah
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,135
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another tip for spledide's. If yours stops drying and the leds flash rapidly, you have to clean out the bellows. A real pain too. It's the rubber air tube that goes from the bucket to the back panel and because its a bellows type of tube it traps lint.
Always, always use liquid soap. dry soap powders sometimes dont dissolve and aggravates the lint build up.
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03-08-2018, 08:46 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Saint Petersburg, FL
Vessel Name: Migration
Vessel Model: Marine Trader 34 Double Cabin Yacht Trawler
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 77
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Other than a vented dryer would work faster, are there any other advantages? I was hoping not to have to put yet another hole in my boat...
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03-08-2018, 09:23 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
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I have a Spledide 4 year old non-vented dryer in a cabinet of my AT34.
Do I like it? Wellll, it is better than hand washing or a 10 mile round trip to the laundromat.
Usually, even using the max drying setting, I need about 10 mins of 'hanging time,' especially if it involves towels (2 bath towels and a hand towel) Depending upon the other load sizes, it usually needs some "hanging time".
Per sheets, one sheet and 2 pillow cases. That means 2 loads to wash a set of sheets and 4 pillow cases plus "hanging time."
Of course, one needs to get use to wearing wrinkled clothes too.
Hind-sight, I should have installed a vented Spledide and vented it (a 2 ft run) into the cockpit. I'll let the next owner tackle that.
On my N46, I had a vented Spledide. It was obvious there was an ongoing problem with lint build up in the exhaust vent.
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03-08-2018, 09:25 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Hobe Sound FL
Vessel Name: CORISANDE SHADOW
Vessel Model: PDQ 41
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 67
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I am very happy with my Splendide vented, which I have had for four months of almost daily use.
Best,
Maldwin
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03-08-2018, 09:46 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillZe
Other than a vented dryer would work faster, are there any other advantages? I was hoping not to have to put yet another hole in my boat...
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That's the reason for vented. A second thing is removing the hot humid air.
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