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03-21-2010, 05:35 AM
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RE: Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
BTW, welcome to the forum Peggie! Haven't seen you around for awhile. Glad to see you here!
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03-21-2010, 08:38 AM
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Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
Peggy:
Being somewhat technically challenged, (Me , not you..) I want to be clear on one point.* Replacing the sensors with the Profile system does not require new wire runs as the old wiring will work. I assume that replacing the old panel (which* is in the head) with the new Profile panel is simply a matter of mounting the new panel and connecting the appropriate old wires. Am I correct?
BTW,* We are lucky to have you in this forum.
-- Edited by SeaHorse II on Sunday 21st of March 2010 09:48:50 AM
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03-21-2010, 05:46 PM
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Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
You are correct. If you have any problems or questions, call or email Dennis Ferriello: dennis@ferriellosales.com or by phone at (435) 656-0042. He's the only person I know who'll answer the phone at 7pm on a Sunday to help somebody with an installation problems.
And thank you for the kind words!
-- Edited by HeadMistress on Sunday 21st of March 2010 06:47:28 PM
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03-22-2010, 03:04 PM
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RE: Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
Peggie:
You are correct, use of the existing wires is fine. Our system is low voltage 0-5 volts and our panel will read most senders on the market that either use 0-5 volts or 240-30 or 30-240 Ohms and also the long read senders on the market.
If I can be of help please let me know
Dennis
dennis@ferriellosales.com
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10-11-2011, 09:48 PM
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RE: Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
*I took your advise and* replaced my holding tank sensors (today!) with the Profile Solo. After pumping the head and setting the "Empty" light, I then filled the tank with water and set the "Full" light. I then pumped out the tank in 20 second bursts, checking the panel lights after each burst. Results? The Full, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 and empty lights lit as expected. What a great system!!! (And yes, the existing wiring worked like a charm.)
:worship:
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10-13-2011, 12:29 PM
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RE: Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
Here's what the profile looks like installed.
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10-13-2011, 08:31 PM
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RE: Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
Good to see you got it installed, Walt. It IS a great system! Mine have been accurate and trouble free since I installed them in July.
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10-14-2011, 01:03 PM
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Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
Quote:
FlyWright wrote:
Good to see you got it installed, Walt.
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******* Al:
Of course you would say that as by innuendo and subtlety, you pushed me into it! :shh:
BTW, I really enjoyed your visit & hope we can do it again . Maybe next time you won't be so critical of my boat? :spin:
*psst.....FlyWright & dwhatty....you invite them for a visit and they spend their time on their hands and knees, in your engine room looking for f---U-s!
-- Edited by SeaHorse II on Friday 14th of October 2011 02:12:16 PM
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10-14-2011, 01:35 PM
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RE: Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
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SeaHorse II wrote:FlyWright wrote:
Good to see you got it installed, Walt.
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******* Al:
Of course you would say that as by innuendo and subtlety, you pushed me into it! :shh:
BTW, I really enjoyed your visit & hope we can do it again . Maybe next time you won't be so critical of my boat? :spin:
*psst.....FlyWright & dwhatty....you invite them for a visit and they spend their time on their hands and knees, in your engine room looking for f---U-s!
-- Edited by SeaHorse II on Friday 14th of October 2011 02:12:16 PM
*I didn't see any f...u.s......in the engine room.
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10-14-2011, 01:45 PM
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RE: Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
I know you're kidding...there's nothing not to like on your boat, except for losing your FB on that low bridge. Other than that, it's great.
Like you, I buy these parts then contemplate the installation until I think I have it all figured out. Then when I start the job, something breaks or I find another issue and it's on to plan B. But I sure do love tinkering on my boat!
I'll let you know when I'm headed that way next. I enjoyed our time on the boat and the great dinner.
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10-14-2011, 02:02 PM
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RE: Cleaning Tank Watch Sensors
Quote:
FlyWright wrote:
I know you're kidding...there's nothing not to like on your boat, except for losing your FB on that low bridge. Other than that, it's great.
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*I'll second all that.
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03-31-2020, 01:00 PM
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Dumb question: do I unscrew each probe, unscrew the larger white ring, or remove the larger black ring that holds the entire assembly? Pls see attached pic. Thanks in advance...
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03-31-2020, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsenough
Dumb question: do I unscrew each probe, unscrew the larger white ring, or remove the larger black ring that holds the entire assembly? Pls see attached pic. Thanks in advance...
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No need to unscrew each probe. They are mounted into the top white circular disc. Unscrew the large white disc with the castellations on it. It will unscrew out of the black flange.
One thing we did was buy a complete replacement sensor unit. Every 2nd or 3rd pumpout, we swap the sensors. That way the alternate one can be cleaned separately and then stowed for next time (we made a PVC stowage tube). I did a project writeup here: Holding Tank Sensor Maintenance
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03-31-2020, 03:26 PM
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Replacing the senders with a sender that attaches to outside of the tank would cost less than a "spare" Tankwatch sending unit...It'll work with the existing wiring and I'm pretty sure it'll also work with the same readout panel, so the sender is the only part you should need. Best of all, you'll never have to clean senders again! Check out the SCAD systems Scad Tank Monitors
--Btw...y'all DO realize that you've just resurrected a 9 yr old thread?
--Peggie
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03-31-2020, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadMistress
Replacing the senders with a sender that attaches to outside of the tank would cost less than a "spare" Tankwatch sending unit...It'll work with the existing wiring and I'm pretty sure it'll also work with the same readout panel, so the sender is the only part you should need. Best of all, you'll never have to clean senders again! Check out the SCAD systems Scad Tank Monitors
--Btw...y'all DO realize that you've just resurrected a 9 yr old thread?
--Peggie
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Wouldn't work with our built-in tanks - 3/4" ply covered with fiberglass.
Just trying to help answering a question......
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03-31-2020, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsenough
Dumb question: do I unscrew each probe, unscrew the larger white ring, or remove the larger black ring that holds the entire assembly? Pls see attached pic. Thanks in advance...
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As long as you have enough slack in the wiring and hoses so that they can turn as you unscrew the white ring. I just did mine a few weeks ago and it wasn’t too bad as far as working on the holding tank goes...
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03-31-2020, 04:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
As long as you have enough slack in the wiring and hoses so that they can turn as you unscrew the white ring. I just did mine a few weeks ago and it wasn’t too bad as far as working on the holding tank goes...
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I cut the wires and put in a four-conductor quick connector to make the swap easier.
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03-31-2020, 04:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boathealer
I cut the wires and put in a four-conductor quick connector to make the swap easier.
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That would work. I haven’t had to clean my sensors yet in 5 years but I had to get a tube out of the tank that fell in. I opened the access port so I could get the tube out.
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03-31-2020, 06:53 PM
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To clean holding tank sensors, I use uncloric acid.
Take sensor out, stick in a tall bucket or capped PVC tube, fill with uncloric acid, let sit overnight, shaking occasionally.
Also use uncloric acid to clean toilet, pumps, pipes and hoses.
They sell for around $5 to $9 per jar which makes 1 gallon
Marine Sanitation sells it by the jar.
The non contact tank monitors like Profile and SCAD work much better than in tank sensors and no cleaning required.
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