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Old 10-01-2012, 11:13 PM   #21
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Do you flush with salt water or fresh? My Californian's tank capacity is only 30 gallons; lasts 2 of us about 3 -4 days.I'm sure we have some scale build up that is reducing capacity. But I'm not sure that we can afford to give up fresh water supply for flushing. How does your setup work? Thanks
Kinda both! I flush with raw water and boat mostly in fresh water. My raw water thru-hull is shared with my raw water wash down pump supply. Since I boat in fresh water, I don't get the smell many of you experience.

Except for the Y to my RW washdown pump, here's how my system is connected:

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Old 10-01-2012, 11:33 PM   #22
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. Since I boat in fresh water, I don't get the smell many of you experience.
Yes, Al, except perhaps when you come down-river to San Francisco Bay?
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:37 PM   #23
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I guess we're going to find out. Didn't notice any issues on past trips to the bay since I don't stay long enough to start to stink!!
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:55 PM   #24
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My head is gravity... with flush water supplied from the fresh water tank. Because my boat is trailerable and used as a camper, gray water also goes into the holding tank. I got run off another board for talking about this and you may not have the problem, but to conserve water and holding capacity, I tuck a short ribbon of toilet paper into the seat and let it hang down the back of the bowl before sitting -- saves water and capacity by eliminating the need to rinse down skidmarks.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:02 AM   #25
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Sounds gross. I'd prefer to use a brush and then flush a second time if necessary or, to preserve water/tankage, flush later at the next episode.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:52 PM   #26
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Kinda both! I flush with raw water and boat mostly in fresh water. My raw water thru-hull is shared with my raw water wash down pump supply. Since I boat in fresh water, I don't get the smell many of you experience.

Except for the Y to my RW washdown pump, here's how my system is connected:

You should have a vented loop in that system if the holding tank discharge is below the water line.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:53 PM   #27
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........... I tuck a short ribbon of toilet paper into the seat and let it hang down the back of the bowl before sitting -- saves water and capacity by eliminating the need to rinse down skidmarks.
Jeff, I'm sure that works for you but I would hate to have to explain the proceedure to guests.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:35 PM   #28
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:40 PM   #29
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My head is gravity... with flush water supplied from the fresh water tank. Because my boat is trailerable and used as a camper, gray water also goes into the holding tank. I got run off another board for talking about this and you may not have the problem, but to conserve water and holding capacity, I tuck a short ribbon of toilet paper into the seat and let it hang down the back of the bowl before sitting -- saves water and capacity by eliminating the need to rinse down skidmarks.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:29 PM   #30
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Been doing that for years, before the act, lay three squares of TP front to back one more square on each side of the middle square. I first heard about this being done in hospital bedpans, to make them easier to empty. Thank God I have never had to use a bed pan so can't say that for sure, but, it does work well on the boat.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:45 PM   #31
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I prohibit the flushing of toilet paper. Used TP goes in the covered trash can adjacent to the toilet. A toilet brush is nearby to scrub the bowl when needed.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:25 PM   #32
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I prohibit the flushing of toilet paper. Used TP goes in the covered trash can adjacent to the toilet. A toilet brush is nearby to scrub the bowl when needed.
I've never really understood this aversion to sending toilet paper through the toilet to the holding tank. If one uses dissolving toilet paper--- and there are plenty of brands and types of this stuff in the marine and RV markets--- there should be no issues with using it at all unless one has a very sensitive or poorly engineered head/holding tank system.

We have ancient Groco EB toilets on our boat that we operate manually even though they have the electric drive motors on them. We've been using them and flushing toilet paper down them for fourteen years now with nary a problem. They require a rebuild kit every so often but this has nothing to do with flushing paper. The pump diaphragm and seals and choker valve get tired over time or the spring holding the little flapper valve breaks or whatever.

Other than the first day we had the boat when we operated the toilets incorrectly we have never had a clog in the system. The macerator pumps that pump the holding tanks overboard where it's legal have never had any problems pumping out the tanks. Likewise the shoreside pumpout facilities we use have never had a problem emptying the tanks completely.

We make sure guests understand the operation of the toilets and that the only things that go into them are what they've already processed themselves or the toilet paper on the holder. And to use short lengths of the paper.

So I don't see what the benefit is of saving used toilet paper in a can as opposed to flushing it down the toilet.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:12 AM   #33
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I prohibit the flushing of toilet paper. Used TP goes in the covered trash can adjacent to the toilet. A toilet brush is nearby to scrub the bowl when needed.
Do you have a manual head? I have sailboat friends with manual pump heads who share your feelings, but not me.

Mine is electric with a well functioning macerator. Flushing of all appropriate components of the act is required on my boat. Don't worry, the head can handle it.
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It's electric, but let's just say I'm not looking for problems. I tend to use a lot of paper.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:50 AM   #35
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I flush on my boat like Chicagoans vote....flush early and flush often! (No need for toilet paper lined landing pads!)
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:13 AM   #36
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:54 AM   #37
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I prohibit the flushing of toilet paper. Used TP goes in the covered trash can adjacent to the toilet. A toilet brush is nearby to scrub the bowl when needed.
I agree. In fact on my last boat both heads had a sign above them that said "If it didn't go into your mouth and through your body it doesn't go into this head".

As to Marin's statement about TP. Dissolve or not if the tank gets full the first thing that goes up the vent is TP. Now this may come from all of the days on sailboats but the facts are that when a sailboat heals and the holding tank is somewhat full the vent can get flooded. TP floats on the top and seems to be the biggest cause for clogging vents.

My Vac-u-Flush works great and we apply the same rules as on the previous boats. Old habits die hard and if what one does works why change it. So my V-F will not have the opportunity to see if it can handle the TP or not.
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If the TP dissolves there's nothing to go up the vent. If one uses non-dissolving toilet paper then one is asking for trouble.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:58 PM   #39
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How about we start a new thread about which side is preferred for the TP holder.
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