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Old 09-06-2014, 11:18 PM   #21
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We have both

The master has a separate love it

The other is a combined hate to have to clean the mess after guests leave
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Old 09-07-2014, 12:00 AM   #22
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Well, just to add in some balance, we in our 34 ft boat don't have the luxury of a separate shower cubicle from the bathroom/toilet compartment, and our shower is hooked into a mount on the wall opposite the loo. Yet we can shower without wetting the loo seat, and with only minimal wipe-down needed after a shower, so in fact it works out better than it sounds.

If we had a bigger boat then separate toilet/basin etc and shower stall/cubicle would be nice, but we don't. I have been on board boats of similar size where they went to a lot of trouble to have them separate, and the result was often the bathroom is basically part of the for'd stateroom, and has to be entered by any visitors or guests to use the said ablutions, thus removing all privacy. So, unless they are your own, (and preferably young) family, it makes the boat a 2 person overnighter only.

On our boat by not having them separate we have room for there to be a door between our stateroom and the small lobby accessing the combined toilet/bathroom. This works much better if we have guests.
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Old 09-07-2014, 12:00 AM   #23
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OPTION A-So are you guys talking about a shower that is a separate shower stall that happens to be in the same room with a door as the commode and sink, like in a house?

OPTION B-Or are you talking about a room with a draining floor that has a shower head, and a sink, and a commode in it?
Yes. That is the discussion. Option A vs. Option B
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:17 AM   #24
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A shower with a door that seals the steam in is very helpful in colder climates. I would never have a wet stall bathroom as primary, I had one hated it.
Yes, but do you have an exhaust fan in the shower stall to exhaust humidity and stray odors?
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:26 AM   #25
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Ours are separate, shower to stbd, head & basin to port. But not originally, we discovered.
Our IG 36 Europa has a single sleeping cabin fwd. The long term (25 years) PO had a wardrobe/dressing area to stbd converted to a large shower, at his wife`s insistence. We`re glad he did, and that it was done to match the original fitout.
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:39 AM   #26
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Like most, the Coot's shower is a sub-compartment of the bathroom. (Despite the below drawing, the shower door is folding and turns into the shower compartment.) Both toilet/sink section and shower have their own drains.
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:48 AM   #27
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Yes. That is the discussion. Option A vs. Option B
Oh

I thought nay very small boats have a head with a draining floor. That's what we had on our 28' Bayliner.

No choice. Separate
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Old 09-07-2014, 06:32 AM   #28
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With 2 people usually on board having exclusive space that is used 1% or 2% of the time seems a waste.

On our quite small 50 ft boat interior , there is a shower pan built into the corner of the main salon behind the dinette back.The manual head is located there .

A SS shower curtain rod goes full circle to contain the shower water.

Most times the head or shower is being used in an empty room so privacy is assured.

Not for folks that travel with a gaggle , but for a couple its just fine.

With 4 opening bronze ports , two hatches ,two Dorade vents , humidity or aromas are not a concern.
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We have separate head and shower -- two completely separate "rooms" -- and we like it that way. Our shower also has a seat, which can useful in lieu of full tub. All pros, for us; no cons.

The new owner of our brand has build a couple newer versions of our boat... and their version has two wet heads (drain in head) in place of our separate set-up. Commentary from the owner's club has been almost unanimous thumbs down.

We had a separate, enclosed shower within the same "room" as our head in a previous boat (Mainship III) and that was also adequate... but not as useful IMO as what we have now.

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Old 09-07-2014, 09:18 AM   #30
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Or just use the aft cockpit shower after dark....


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Old 09-07-2014, 09:47 AM   #31
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Our shower is in the master stateroom head, along with the toilet. A simple shower curtain keeps the water in the pan and doesn't get the rest of the area wet. When using marinas or public facilities, the laundry hamper resides in the shower. Simple to move if need be. Only down side is that the shower sump pump always has some water in it (below the pan floor) due to the hose being raised higher than the water line to prevent flooding. It gets scummy and needs cleaned out about once a month or so, and definitely completely dried out before winter lay up. Other wise, it works fine for us.
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That's what we do. If we're in a marina we take advantage of the marina showers that we have paid for.
Ok. I have to ask this question, not being funny, but serious. This is something we've never quite understood. If you have a shower on the boat, why do so many people then use the marina showers? We never have and just admit some discomfort with the idea of using a public shower. Yet we read and see cruisers who value the quality of the marina shower at the top of their marina evaluation.
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My Cherubini has a bathroom that you go through to enter a seperate shower room with a nice bench and opening window to reduces moisture. The master staterooom has a very nice half bath. Couldn't ask for a nicer setup!

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Ok. I have to ask this question, not being funny, but serious. This is something we've never quite understood. If you have a shower on the boat, why do so many people then use the marina showers? We never have and just admit some discomfort with the idea of using a public shower. Yet we read and see cruisers who value the quality of the marina shower at the top of their marina evaluation.

Our small boat has a "wet head". Shower works fine but is a pain in the rump to use IMO. Clean public showers at the marina is no big deal for us. If you prepare properly they can be quite easy. Shower shoes (flippies) work well going to a from the boat and can be worn in the shower too if you fear the cleanliness of the floor.

Cockpit shower would be nice to have and far more useful on a small boat IMO.
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Old 09-07-2014, 10:18 AM   #35
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Seperate for us. Although we had them together in the camano.
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That's what we do. If we're in a marina we take advantage of the marina showers that we have paid for.
Yep, the cockpit shower is great. When anchored I usually take an evening swim, and then shampoo and shower off on the swim platform. We have a stall shower for other times and privacy. When I just want to stand under a hot shower with gobs of water and steam, I will use the marina facilities.
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Yep, the cockpit shower is great. When anchored I usually take an evening swim, and then shampoo and shower off on the swim platform. We have a stall shower for other times and privacy. When I just want to stand under a hot shower with gobs of water and steam, I will use the marina facilities.


And you don't have to listen to the annoying sound of the pump cycling telling you that your using too much water..

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Old 09-07-2014, 12:32 PM   #38
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I am amazed at how many marina heads aren't heated and if they are...boy some could use weatherstripping etc.......from the outside it looks like it's on fire if they have hot enough shower water...

Of course when you travel when the water to the docks is turned off because of freezing....those winter winds find every crack in those marina heads.
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Ok. I have to ask this question, not being funny, but serious. This is something we've never quite understood. If you have a shower on the boat, why do so many people then use the marina showers? We never have and just admit some discomfort with the idea of using a public shower. Yet we read and see cruisers who value the quality of the marina shower at the top of their marina evaluation.
Some are extremely nice, some offer relative privacy (total privacy in some cases), and are much larger than those on boats. Also may have more water pressure than on many boats, including those using dock water with pressure regulator. Takes pressure off sump pumps, and if you are one of those "never hook up to dock water" types, the water pump. Also keeps the boat shower clean. When we lived on moorings, obviously it made sense, even the funky ones at Marathon (which did have decent privacy though).
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We have wet head and my plan this winter is to rework the entire area . The faucet handles and shower hose nozzle are at about waist high with the hose for shower head . We are constantly knocking the hose off the nozzle and water goes everywhere I'm thinking on installing one of the faucet / shower head hose units that are in a flush mount box . I will gain about 6" of shower room . That's a lot in a small head . I have seen these for cockpit showers . I have the room on the other side of bulk head for the box . Does anybody here have one of these in their shower/ head ?
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