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Old 09-23-2013, 02:18 PM   #21
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I am only 5'8 175 and bang my head in our DF 49RPH engine room alot even now a scab has just dropped off the crown of my head, I am unaware of any boat that 6'10 would work even just lying down to sleep.

My last boat a CA 34 wouldnt allow you in the engine room, while I take that back it will allow you in but I am not sure it would allow you out.

If I were your height I would be looking in the 55' to 65' range

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Old 09-23-2013, 02:51 PM   #22
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Thanks for the response

As of now the entire budget is $300K. Once I determine if this adventure is even feasible based on my size I will proceed with locating a boat I can live in.

I have been reading the other posts here. We have farm/ranch/animals/wood shop/vehicles/hobbies and lots of stuff to eliminate.

One of my hobbies I am heavily invested in and is illegal in some parts of the world. So I am very torn there.

Based on our current lifestyle I know this will be an emotional roller coaster for the both of us.

We are discussing renting the place out in lieu of an outright sale.
If I am unable to deal with the head room issue or we decide Trawler boating is not for us.

Perhaps we might by a small house near the water so the wife can continue her animal husbandry and then purchase a smaller boat for day trips.

What type of boat is required to travel from Anacotes to one of the Orcas Islands? I have a 20 foot runabout that I may keep.

Anyway off to read some more.

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I am only 5'8 175 and bang my head in our DF 49RPH engine room alot even now a scab has just dropped off the crown of my head, I am unaware of any boat that 6'10 would work even just lying down to sleep.

My last boat a CA 34 wouldnt allow you in the engine room, while I take that back it will allow you in but I am not sure it would allow you out.

If I were your height I would be looking in the 55' to 65' range

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Old 09-23-2013, 05:11 PM   #23
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Big Jim, you can go anywhere in the San Juan's in a 20 foot runabout, just watch your weather forecasts.
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It will not take long for you to learn that often an original inquiry made on a specific subject struggles to survive the detours that occur.
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t would be prudent to contact the Canadian Customs and ASK if there are provisions regarding hand guns transiting British Columbia. It would be tragic if you accept off beat information that led to a serious breach of Canadian gun rules.

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It would be suggested that you not allow yourself to be drawn into sour debate on self serving philosophical positions, rather tend to boat matters the forum holds great information about.
There are forums within this site to deal with the "Other Than".

Still, Big Jim, stay positive on the bucket list item of coming to Alaska. Once here in a more personal level than off a large cruise ship, you will find that you are most welcome. It is not who you are or what you are in Alaska, it is what you bring to the table to contribute.

If you do make it to Ketchikan and you still require a handgun It is a given that you will be able to be accommodated.

Most of us do carry 12 gauge when around bear country, however in addition most of us carry handguns of heavy caliber.

You will be pleased to know that Alaska is one of a very few States that allows anybody (Except convicted felons) to carry concealed without a license. Doesn't seem to be a problem.

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Participating in a gun “buy-back” program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids...
Which is why, Canadian Customs is convinced that every American travelling to or from Alaska is heavily armed and therefore dangerous. Until recently, my experience had always been by car, but this summer, by boat, and the Customs guys turned up before I was even tied up at the dock. Amazing, since I was probably the first American boat they saw in weeks. And then In St. Johns, they came to look for guns again.

Good luck. Check out a lot of boats. Some have decidedly more head/leg room than others.

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Old 09-23-2013, 05:59 PM   #25
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You win!!! It will be interesting to read the comebacks after you height is known.
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Canadian Customs Web Site

So I was checking into the Canadian Customs via the link provided. I was reading along and read what I am required to declare, besides any firearms.

Cigars
Cigarettes
Liquor
Beer
Wine
PORNOGRAPHY??
.....Well no way am I letting them have my stash,,,,so no guns in Canada for me.
Really, I need to declare how much Porn I have?

I guess if New York can ban whatever the Mayor feels like banning Canada can ban or regulate Porn.



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It will not take long for you to learn that often an original inquiry made on a specific subject struggles to survive the detours that occur.
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t would be prudent to contact the Canadian Customs and ASK if there are provisions regarding hand guns transiting British Columbia. It would be tragic if you accept off beat information that led to a serious breach of Canadian gun rules.

Taking Guns Into Canada – Information for US citizens taking guns into or through Canada


It would be suggested that you not allow yourself to be drawn into sour debate on self serving philosophical positions, rather tend to boat matters the forum holds great information about.
There are forums within this site to deal with the "Other Than".

Still, Big Jim, stay positive on the bucket list item of coming to Alaska. Once here in a more personal level than off a large cruise ship, you will find that you are most welcome. It is not who you are or what you are in Alaska, it is what you bring to the table to contribute.

If you do make it to Ketchikan and you still require a handgun It is a given that you will be able to be accommodated.

Most of us do carry 12 gauge when around bear country, however in addition most of us carry handguns of heavy caliber.

You will be pleased to know that Alaska is one of a very few States that allows anybody (Except convicted felons) to carry concealed without a license. Doesn't seem to be a problem.

Cheers,
Al- Ketchikan (Bridge to Nowhere)-Alaska

Participating in a gun “buy-back” program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids...
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:40 PM   #28
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Six ten, 240.
I don't think you're going to find many pleasure boats that will fit your height. I'm 6'4" and I remember being told years ago that I should either find something I can clear totally under, or get something that is obviously shorter so I would always remember to duck under.

The owner of this Pilgrim 40 "Dreamboat Annie" is 6'6". I've not met him in person yet, but he has invived me aboard. His boat is about 1.5 hours south of me in Solmons Island MD. He might be able to give you some advice on being tall onboard? I'll send you a private message so you can contact me if you wish to get in touch with him?
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There is one of these boats for sale out there in California if you wanted to see what they are like,....personally I think they make a great liveaboard, coastal crusier.
1989 Pilgrim North Castle Marine Pilgrim 40 Power Boat For Sale -

...and here is one in Alaska
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Old 09-24-2013, 05:29 AM   #29
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Jim,

At your height you are in the 1% or 2% percentile of the population.

By now you have figured out most places are not built with you in mind.

In the old days many boats were built as :sitters: where most all operations were carried out seated.

IF you can find a boat where you can stand in the PH , that would be as good as you are going to easily find.

Builders do not build for 1% , they build for the quickest sale possible as most are built on borrowed funds.

Find a boat that has good ventilation , good views out the windows , and a main cabin that sits well, and a bunk that you can extend easily.

No you will probably never stand in the shower , unless its on deck.

Good hunting,
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:08 AM   #30
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You spoke of going back to Alaska. Perhaps you should speak to the owners of this vessel, I think they have spent some time living on it up there? Might give you some idea of systems required for that environment
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:14 AM   #31
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You might also consider a Great Harbor trawler. The one I was on had big headroom, and it was only their 37 footer.

Some of my photos over here
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This is getting lose but it's a 44 footer. I have not been aboard...

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Old 10-01-2013, 08:32 PM   #34
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Big Jim,
Just off another thread titled "Willard" Included there is this advertisement. What made it interesting was 7 foot head room!!
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:41 PM   #35
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Thanks for that.
Whats with the boat brokers? I am on Orcas Island this Saturday and wrote to a broker about a boat I want to see. I wrote the broker a note asking a question, cricketts.

I wrote another broker a question about another boat in Anacortes. Nothing, no response.

Odd at least.

I am still a tire kicker until I solve the headroom issue, but why ignore my first emails?
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:27 PM   #36
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I just measured the ceiling height for the Great Harbour 47 - some places are 83" Saloon, Galley, Master Berth. The passageway between the galley and the master berth is only 76".
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Jim
If you are in Canadian water, you generally are in Canada. This is definitely true if you anchor. All the regulations on hand guns apply - It is a criminal offense not just a citation. Same goes for some porno - particularly kiddie porn or violent porn - criminal not just naughty.

The height issue - the mattress size can be changed or extended easily but you will not find a lot of sedan height selection that makes you happy. It is hard to raise the top on most models but sometimes you could lower the centre aisle at from the floor. You lose some space in the engine room or cockpit but maybe still a decent trade.

The wine issue. Try making some on board. In 15 days with a little skill grape juice concentrate equals wine. I do and it works well. It is also 90% cheaper than the expensive alcohol prices in Canada.

I think a 35 footer is too small for continuous travel. Try something bigger and the possibility of more headroom could more likely be there.

$300,000 seems way too high for a boat unless you are incredibly fussy. Try around a $100,000 for a decent used vessel and although some people are much lower and some much higher, count on maybe $3000 a month to run I am lower on both the capital and operational cost and I would say we live pretty well.

Try four months solid off in the summer with no return to home before committing to full time or winter. I do this and find it quite acceptable.

Lastly - the mail- I have someone come by once a week and gather it up and turf it into a big cardboard box reading none of it. I know which recurring bills to pay so I stop at a branch of my bank once a month and pay roughly what I think as I can always phone for an accurate amount. My only beef is Hydro estimated readings which always rip me off. Next year I am going to phone in some fake readings . If they can cheat, so can I .
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I just measured the ceiling height for the Great Harbour 47 - some places are 83" Saloon, Galley, Master Berth. The passageway between the galley and the master berth is only 76".
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If you are in Canadian water, you generally are in Canada. This is definitely true if you anchor. All the regulations on hand guns apply - It is a criminal offense not just a citation. Same goes for some porno - particularly kiddie porn or violent porn - criminal not just naughty.

The height issue - the mattress size can be changed or extended easily but you will not find a lot of sedan height selection that makes you happy. It is hard to raise the top on most models but sometimes you could lower the centre aisle at from the floor. You lose some space in the engine room or cockpit but maybe still a decent trade.

The wine issue. Try making some on board. In 15 days with a little skill grape juice concentrate equals wine. I do and it works well. It is also 90% cheaper than the expensive alcohol prices in Canada.

I think a 35 footer is too small for continuous travel. Try something bigger and the possibility of more headroom could more likely be there.

$300,000 seems way too high for a boat unless you are incredibly fussy. Try around a $100,000 for a decent used vessel and although some people are much lower and some much higher, count on maybe $3000 a month to run I am lower on both the capital and operational cost and I would say we live pretty well.

Try four months solid off in the summer with no return to home before committing to full time or winter. I do this and find it quite acceptable.

Lastly - the mail- I have someone come by once a week and gather it up and turf it into a big cardboard box reading none of it. I know which recurring bills to pay so I stop at a branch of my bank once a month and pay roughly what I think as I can always phone for an accurate amount. My only beef is Hydro estimated readings which always rip me off. Next year I am going to phone in some fake readings . If they can cheat, so can I .
Thanks for all of that. The 300K would include travel and lodging to a potential boat, haul out, inspection etc.
I do not do any porn, have a great and wonderful wife....
I will not give up my other hobby so Canada will have to due without my money.
Alaska seems to still be a free state, so we can hobby up there as well as Washington state.
Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.
Now if these two brokers will write back...
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Big Jim - Here is a link to The Essentials of Living Aboard A Boat - Mark Nicholas I just finished it, and I highly recommend it, as our situations sound similar, though at this point my steps into this journey are few. The wife and I are in the "immersion" stage.

I too have wondered on the gun issue, as I refuse to disarm, Thanks for bringing this up, and thanks to all who have supplied info.

BTW, Nordhavn no longer offers the 35, but now and then you can find one on brokerage or classified sites, but as stated earlier in this thread, I don't think fuel capacity is there for circumnavigation, and I think at best, it's limited to coastal cruising, maybe even island-hopping. We are looking at the N40, which is fully capable.

Good luck to you and your wife, and please keep us posted!

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