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Old 11-28-2018, 08:19 AM   #1
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Cool NOT a good week to be a liveaboard!

I guess it’s true what they say, when it rains it pours.

-both heads need pumps rebuilt
-holding tank needs inlets fabricated and replaced
-forward AC unit needs refrigerant, it’s freezing up
-water line leak in inaccessible compartment between two bulkheads
-defrosting the ice maker to get ice buildup removed

And I’m not going to blink or breathe or I feel like something else may go on the fritz.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:29 AM   #2
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Always a project behind...


Looking for the last of the fittings to plumb the fuel supply for a Dickinson Bering stove here in Toronto, before the next wave of Arctic air arrives...


Marina transformer burned out last week during the last one, whole place is on the giant generator, waiting for the replacement...


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Old 11-28-2018, 08:30 AM   #3
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Mr. t. Look on the bright side. IF you were NOT living aboard, you'd VERY probably be getting into all sorts of mischief. Idle hands are the devil's plaything...


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Old 11-28-2018, 08:38 AM   #4
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Toocoys, I feel you, sir! My ship has been really good in Galveston, but I have end of semester stuff that I can’t even go check her out! I realize we do not have the winter issue those in the frozen north do, so count our blessings as you muck around the holding tank!
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:48 AM   #5
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I guess it’s true what they say, when it rains it pours.

-both heads need pumps rebuilt
-holding tank needs inlets fabricated and replaced
-forward AC unit needs refrigerant, it’s freezing up
-water line leak in inaccessible compartment between two bulkheads
-defrosting the ice maker to get ice buildup removed

And I’m not going to blink or breathe or I feel like something else may go on the fritz.

Some thoughts for a livaboard…

-both heads need pumps rebuilt
Buy a complete new pump and swap it out, then rebuild one of the others and always have a working spare to swap in
-holding tank needs inlets fabricated and replaced
-forward AC unit needs refrigerant, it’s freezing up
This is often due to lack of air flow, clean the screen located prior to the condenser fins as well as the condenser fins themselves
-water line leak in inaccessible compartment between two bulkheads
I have had success completely bypassing such lines until a comprehensive repair could be organized.
-defrosting the ice maker to get ice buildup removed
Typical - defrost every 2 weeks on your own time schedule. about 2 hours of lineal time and maybe 5 minutes of attentive time.

Good luck , have fun
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:56 AM   #6
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What temp is the water outside? If below 40f, your compressor will freeze up.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:28 AM   #7
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What temp is the water outside? If below 40f, your compressor will freeze up.
Wifey B: ASD, are you asking Toocoys in Seabreeze, TX?
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:33 AM   #8
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Wifey B: ASD, are you asking Toocoys in Seabreeze, TX?
Ha, well the way the weather has been????
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Wifey B: ASD, are you asking Toocoys in Seabreeze, TX?
I think he moved to Seabrook Tx.
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:56 PM   #10
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I guess it’s true what they say, when it rains it pours.


-forward AC unit needs refrigerant, it’s freezing up

Not so fast, it's not a given. Other things can cause freeze up. Others already mentioned cold water, but that only applies if the freeze up is on the HX assembly and in heat mode. You didn't elaborate beyond 'freezing up', so we can't be certain. But, there's no way the indoor coil should frost in heating. If the indoor coil is actually frosting, then look first for an air side problem: low air flow, blocked/dirty coil, low fan speed. Low charge can also be a culprit, and if that's the case, adding refrigerant isn't a repair, it's just treating a symptom.
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Not so fast on the heads needing rebuilding. Clogged discharge line to the waste tank will do the same. BTDT. What brand/model?
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:54 PM   #12
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Not so fast, it's not a given. Other things can cause freeze up. Others already mentioned cold water, but that only applies if the freeze up is on the HX assembly and in heat mode. You didn't elaborate beyond 'freezing up', so we can't be certain. But, there's no way the indoor coil should frost in heating. If the indoor coil is actually frosting, then look first for an air side problem: low air flow, blocked/dirty coil, low fan speed. Low charge can also be a culprit, and if that's the case, adding refrigerant isn't a repair, it's just treating a symptom.

Well we aren't sure what the issue is. The tech came out today and tried to troubleshoot but we couldn't find the problem. Water flow is optimal, air flow is optimal, and we couldn't come up with anything. At this point I'm hoping that it was just a fluke and maybe we sucked something up that caused a water blockage and made it freeze over. We are going to run it as normal and monitor it through the next cold snap. If it freezes over again we'll know it wasn't something sucked up.

The only thing we aren't sure of right now is the compressor will run at about 170 degrees in heat mode. Not sure if thats high or not.

This is what it looked like during the last cold front. The coils were solid ice.
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Not so fast on the heads needing rebuilding. Clogged discharge line to the waste tank will do the same. BTDT. What brand/model?

Jabsco Quite Flush 37072-001 if I'm reading the pump label correctly. And yes, they need to be rebuilt. The aft pump has a leak in the seal where it mounts to the head, so every time you flush, water squeezes out the seal. And the forward head is getting stuck. Last night I had to take a penny and manually turn the pump from the back in order to get it spinning while holding the button.
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:59 PM   #14
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Mr. t. Look on the bright side. IF you were NOT living aboard, you'd VERY probably be getting into all sorts of mischief. Idle hands are the devil's plaything...


The only reason I haven't thrown in the towel on living aboard yet is because every time there's an issue, people always tell me "you still have issues with houses, just different types." I.E. appliances go out, roofs leak, electricl/plumbing issues... etc etc.

And I admit, we've neglected the heads and holding tank issues so those are something that I've known about.
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Greetings,
Mr. t. You can't throw in the towel, you'd go nuts...


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...ter_us_5791024
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:47 PM   #16
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The maintenance on a liveaboard in my experience is WAY more than a house if you don't count outside work or an ancient house or a leaky basement, etc, etc.

The systems tend to be more frail and don't seem to last as long under constant use.

Especially if you toss in the engine, genst and dink...but don't toss in if you do all the maintenance on your car,.

Sure it can vary wildly between boats and houses...but in my 3 liveaboard experiences....boats have kept me jumping more than houses.
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Mr. ps. Read post #15. You know why you are, where you are. As do the majority of TF members, I expect.
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Sorry RT, that article isn't describing someone who may just be a little saturated by too much of a good thing...

Or did you mean Brunswick, Ga?
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The maintenance on a liveaboard in my experience is WAY more than a house if you don't count outside work or an ancient house or a leaky basement, etc, etc.

The systems tend to be more frail and don't seem to last as long under constant use.

Especially if you toss in the engine, genst and dink...but don't toss in if you do all the maintenance on your car,.

Sure it can vary wildly between boats and houses...but in my 3 liveaboard experiences....boats have kept me jumping more than houses.

If that's a pep talk...it's severely lacking...
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No pep talk...just an honest rrsponse....

Like that one thread discussed....not many ever make the leap and out of those many don't last long.
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