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11-28-2018, 08:19 AM
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Scraping Paint
City: nowhere
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 934
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NOT a good week to be a liveaboard!
I guess it’s true what they say, when it rains it pours.
-both heads need pumps rebuilt
-holding tank needs inlets fabricated and replaced
-forward AC unit needs refrigerant, it’s freezing up
-water line leak in inaccessible compartment between two bulkheads
-defrosting the ice maker to get ice buildup removed
And I’m not going to blink or breathe or I feel like something else may go on the fritz.
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11-28-2018, 08:29 AM
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Senior Member
City: Toronto ON
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 128
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Always a project behind...
Looking for the last of the fittings to plumb the fuel supply for a Dickinson Bering stove here in Toronto, before the next wave of Arctic air arrives...
Marina transformer burned out last week during the last one, whole place is on the giant generator, waiting for the replacement...
Procrastination is always punished...
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11-28-2018, 08:30 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,567
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Greetings,
Mr. t. Look on the bright side. IF you were NOT living aboard, you'd VERY probably be getting into all sorts of mischief. Idle hands are the devil's plaything...
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11-28-2018, 08:38 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Kingwood, TX
Vessel Name: Our Happy Place
Vessel Model: Kha Shing Vista Sundeck Aft Cabin 46
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 39
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Toocoys, I feel you, sir! My ship has been really good in Galveston, but I have end of semester stuff that I can’t even go check her out! I realize we do not have the winter issue those in the frozen north do, so count our blessings as you muck around the holding tank!
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11-28-2018, 08:48 AM
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Guru
City: Northport
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toocoys
I guess it’s true what they say, when it rains it pours.
-both heads need pumps rebuilt
-holding tank needs inlets fabricated and replaced
-forward AC unit needs refrigerant, it’s freezing up
-water line leak in inaccessible compartment between two bulkheads
-defrosting the ice maker to get ice buildup removed
And I’m not going to blink or breathe or I feel like something else may go on the fritz.
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Some thoughts for a livaboard…
-both heads need pumps rebuilt
Buy a complete new pump and swap it out, then rebuild one of the others and always have a working spare to swap in
-holding tank needs inlets fabricated and replaced
-forward AC unit needs refrigerant, it’s freezing up
This is often due to lack of air flow, clean the screen located prior to the condenser fins as well as the condenser fins themselves
-water line leak in inaccessible compartment between two bulkheads
I have had success completely bypassing such lines until a comprehensive repair could be organized.
-defrosting the ice maker to get ice buildup removed
Typical - defrost every 2 weeks on your own time schedule. about 2 hours of lineal time and maybe 5 minutes of attentive time.
Good luck , have fun
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11-28-2018, 10:56 AM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,050
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What temp is the water outside? If below 40f, your compressor will freeze up.
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11-28-2018, 11:28 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
What temp is the water outside? If below 40f, your compressor will freeze up.
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Wifey B: ASD, are you asking Toocoys in Seabreeze, TX?
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11-28-2018, 11:33 AM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,050
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: ASD, are you asking Toocoys in Seabreeze, TX?
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Ha, well the way the weather has been????
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11-28-2018, 11:35 AM
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Guru
City: Northport
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: ASD, are you asking Toocoys in Seabreeze, TX?
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I think he moved to Seabrook Tx.
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11-28-2018, 12:56 PM
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Guru
City: East Coast
Vessel Name: M/V Maerin (Sold)
Vessel Model: Solo 4303
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 886
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toocoys
I guess it’s true what they say, when it rains it pours.
-forward AC unit needs refrigerant, it’s freezing up
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Not so fast, it's not a given. Other things can cause freeze up. Others already mentioned cold water, but that only applies if the freeze up is on the HX assembly and in heat mode. You didn't elaborate beyond 'freezing up', so we can't be certain. But, there's no way the indoor coil should frost in heating. If the indoor coil is actually frosting, then look first for an air side problem: low air flow, blocked/dirty coil, low fan speed. Low charge can also be a culprit, and if that's the case, adding refrigerant isn't a repair, it's just treating a symptom.
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11-28-2018, 05:00 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,966
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Not so fast on the heads needing rebuilding. Clogged discharge line to the waste tank will do the same. BTDT. What brand/model?
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Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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11-28-2018, 06:54 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: nowhere
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 934
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maerin
Not so fast, it's not a given. Other things can cause freeze up. Others already mentioned cold water, but that only applies if the freeze up is on the HX assembly and in heat mode. You didn't elaborate beyond 'freezing up', so we can't be certain. But, there's no way the indoor coil should frost in heating. If the indoor coil is actually frosting, then look first for an air side problem: low air flow, blocked/dirty coil, low fan speed. Low charge can also be a culprit, and if that's the case, adding refrigerant isn't a repair, it's just treating a symptom.
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Well we aren't sure what the issue is. The tech came out today and tried to troubleshoot but we couldn't find the problem. Water flow is optimal, air flow is optimal, and we couldn't come up with anything. At this point I'm hoping that it was just a fluke and maybe we sucked something up that caused a water blockage and made it freeze over. We are going to run it as normal and monitor it through the next cold snap. If it freezes over again we'll know it wasn't something sucked up.
The only thing we aren't sure of right now is the compressor will run at about 170 degrees in heat mode. Not sure if thats high or not.
This is what it looked like during the last cold front. The coils were solid ice.
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11-28-2018, 06:56 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: nowhere
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 934
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
Not so fast on the heads needing rebuilding. Clogged discharge line to the waste tank will do the same. BTDT. What brand/model?
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Jabsco Quite Flush 37072-001 if I'm reading the pump label correctly. And yes, they need to be rebuilt. The aft pump has a leak in the seal where it mounts to the head, so every time you flush, water squeezes out the seal. And the forward head is getting stuck. Last night I had to take a penny and manually turn the pump from the back in order to get it spinning while holding the button.
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11-28-2018, 06:59 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: nowhere
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 934
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. t. Look on the bright side. IF you were NOT living aboard, you'd VERY probably be getting into all sorts of mischief. Idle hands are the devil's plaything...
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The only reason I haven't thrown in the towel on living aboard yet is because every time there's an issue, people always tell me "you still have issues with houses, just different types." I.E. appliances go out, roofs leak, electricl/plumbing issues... etc etc.
And I admit, we've neglected the heads and holding tank issues so those are something that I've known about.
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11-28-2018, 07:47 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,155
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The maintenance on a liveaboard in my experience is WAY more than a house if you don't count outside work or an ancient house or a leaky basement, etc, etc.
The systems tend to be more frail and don't seem to last as long under constant use.
Especially if you toss in the engine, genst and dink...but don't toss in if you do all the maintenance on your car,.
Sure it can vary wildly between boats and houses...but in my 3 liveaboard experiences....boats have kept me jumping more than houses.
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11-28-2018, 07:49 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,567
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Greetings,
Mr. ps. Read post #15. You know why you are, where you are. As do the majority of TF members, I expect.
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11-28-2018, 07:53 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,155
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Sorry RT, that article isn't describing someone who may just be a little saturated by too much of a good thing...
Or did you mean Brunswick, Ga?
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11-28-2018, 07:53 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: nowhere
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 934
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
The maintenance on a liveaboard in my experience is WAY more than a house if you don't count outside work or an ancient house or a leaky basement, etc, etc.
The systems tend to be more frail and don't seem to last as long under constant use.
Especially if you toss in the engine, genst and dink...but don't toss in if you do all the maintenance on your car,.
Sure it can vary wildly between boats and houses...but in my 3 liveaboard experiences....boats have kept me jumping more than houses.
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If that's a pep talk...it's severely lacking...
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11-28-2018, 08:01 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,155
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No pep talk...just an honest rrsponse....
Like that one thread discussed....not many ever make the leap and out of those many don't last long.
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