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Old 07-24-2014, 10:31 AM   #1
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LP vs Electric anyone done a swap ?

Im thinking of swapping out my electric stove top 4 burner princess and replacing it with LP, Has anyone else done the switch ?
got any pics tips tricks brands do's or don'ts ?
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My boat came from the factory with a propane system so I didn't need to do a conversion.

My advice to you is to be sure you understand the ABYC standards for a propane system on a boat and follow them to the letter or make sure the person you hire to do it does the same. Make sure the stove and any other parts are intended for marine use and have an approval label.
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Im thinking of swapping out my electric stove top 4 burner princess and replacing it with LP, Has anyone else done the switch ?
got any pics tips tricks brands do's or don'ts ?
Yup- it was one of the first mods we did to the boat. It's really easy to do.

Out electric stove was a Seaward, and I simply sourced a propane version of the same stove, so the physical install was a snap. I then planned the routing of the propane line and electrical work for the solenoid switch, and put them in.

Total time was about 6 hours for the install.

I recommend you look at your stove and see if there is a propane version available. Get your supplies for the bottle install at an RV store.

Make sure the bottle is in a place where it can drain overboard if there is a leak.
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got rid of my princess as it was trashed by PO.

Replaced with 3 burner Forcce 10 cooktop and toaster oven under on shelf.

Will replacetoaster with convection microwave when the other micro bites the dust.

Very happy and really no big deal if you have an outdoor place to store the tank. It just needs to be a minimum from openings and let propane gas drain overboard..like on a rail or afterdeck not near openings (ABYC).

Other than a continuous feed from electric solenoid at tank and switch/sniffer at stove it was a pretty simple install.

Do some reading on the web...I forget if it's Boatpoker or another surveyor that posts propane tips and diagrams on the web.
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Yup- it was one of the first mods we did to the boat. It's really easy to do..
We did the same within a month of buying a couple boats ago. We followed the guidelines and went through 2 surveys before we sold her with no issues. We bought a RV stove (don't remember the brand) and it worked great for us. We now have a 4 burner Force 10 on Hobo and it is a better quality built stove but was a lot more expensive. We now live-a-board, where before we didn't.
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When we bought our Nova 14 years ago, we did just the opposite, got rid of the propane stove and went electric. Made the insurance company and the Sicilian happy.
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Sweet ! Thanks guys.
I like to think im handy so Ill be attempting the install myself.

Does the LP bottle need to be fully exposed or only need to vent outside? Im thinking of stowing it inside and enclosing it in a water tight box with a vent line to outside ?
Ill do some googlefoo and see if I can find the ABYC rules and regs
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Sweet ! Thanks guys.
I like to think im handy so Ill be attempting the install myself.

Does the LP bottle need to be fully exposed or only need to vent outside? Im thinking of stowing it inside and enclosing it in a water tight box with a vent line to outside ?
Ill do some googlefoo and see if I can find the ABCY rules and regs
This is one that I think is important for you to know the rule...and better than the next surveyor of your boat or any insurance adjuster.

There is a minimum distance from openings into the boat (20 inches) that the locker or pressure relief valve can be.

So the rub is...in the perfect world where you don't want a hose crossing decks to vent propane over the side below the bulwarks and not near an opening in the hull...can you locate all connections, overpressure valves, solenoids, etc...etc more than 20 inches from an opening?

At some point use a ruler and some common sense since the ABYC reg isn't "crystal clear" in my mind the way they phrase "drain" and "minimum distance" and "overboard" in relation to one another...sure individually is easy but the picture they paint could be more specific with examples that are OK and ones that aren't.
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Agreed psneeld,
Im having trouble locating ABYC ruled regs codes.... Do you have a link?
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I found this

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Old 07-24-2014, 01:28 PM   #11
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When you get the cylinders properly installed , perhaps tossing the electric reefer would be next item to upgrade.

Our Propane RV unit is large! and uses a 20lb bottle each momth.

Lots better than genny time and hundreds of pounds of batteries.
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ABYC is smoking crack if they think we should pay $55 bucks to download the "standards". Don't they know we are boat owners and don't have extra $

I thought this was a good read Safe Boat Propane System Installation


Im not ready to toss my AC/DC fridge yet. I have too much beer and Omaha steak being protected
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Agreed psneeld,
Im having trouble locating ABYC ruled regs codes.... Do you have a link?
PM me an email and I'll send what I have that someone sent me (it's a pdf file)...if you haven't done this sort of thing...use the word "at" instead of "@" to make it work.
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I would recommend making the switch, we love our LP thermador stove top (oven is electric). I think LP is overall better then electric and is safe when properly installed and handled.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:23 PM   #15
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Im thinking of swapping out my electric stove top 4 burner princess and replacing it with LP, Has anyone else done the switch ?
got any pics tips tricks brands do's or don'ts ?
How much have you used the boat in the manner which you will or do regularly use it? We found the genset was almost always on anyway during cooking hours, for battery charging, AC, (and in our case, clothes dryer, dishwasher even) other heavy uses so we just did everything at once. Plus we had a gas grill that ran off the little cylinders. Though Ann, a very avid and excellent cook, prefers gas cooking, we just never saw the ROI and after years of living aboard and many months away from the dock at anchor or on moorings never bothered making the switch. An inverter took care of refrigeration and microwave the rest of the time. I think we would look at induction if the cook top needed replacement; electric is much nicer for the oven. Another aspect to me is propane is another thing you are out seeking and schlepping for when in port, and loading on and off the dinghy when not using a dock.
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You make some excellent points Caltexflanc.
My stove is gone and replaced with a microwave and my electric cook top is on its last legs... My 7kw Westerbek ? has a blown head gasket so Ive been toying with the idea of a full solar conversion for the little power I use. I mostly cook on the grill and I live alone. Being in Southern CA allows me to not really need hot water, heat or AC
SOOO If I did a LP cook top that would just be more KW I wont need.
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When you get the cylinders properly installed , perhaps tossing the electric reefer would be next item to upgrade.

Our Propane RV unit is large! and uses a 20lb bottle each momth.

Lots better than genny time and hundreds of pounds of batteries.
I don't believe you'll find a propane refrigerator that's approved for use on a boat.
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I don't believe you'll find a propane refrigerator that's approved for use on a boat.
I've seen dozens of propane refrigeration units, never seen one that came close to ABYC standards.
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You make some excellent points Caltexflanc.
My stove is gone and replaced with a microwave and my electric cook top is on its last legs... My 7kw Westerbek ? has a blown head gasket so Ive been toying with the idea of a full solar conversion for the little power I use. I mostly cook on the grill and I live alone. Being in Southern CA allows me to not really need hot water, heat or AC
SOOO If I did a LP cook top that would just be more KW I wont need.
Well in that case...
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You make some excellent points Caltexflanc.
My stove is gone and replaced with a microwave and my electric cook top is on its last legs... My 7kw Westerbek ? has a blown head gasket so Ive been toying with the idea of a full solar conversion for the little power I use. I mostly cook on the grill and I live alone. Being in Southern CA allows me to not really need hot water, heat or AC
SOOO If I did a LP cook top that would just be more KW I wont need.
Cal I was going to chime in with you until this post. Yes if solar and alternator then LP. If not we have had all and I can say the cooking AC power is all but free as it happens when the genset is doing it's thing. Not having the LP aboard is a nice plus.
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