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Old 03-17-2014, 09:00 PM   #1
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I'm planning on purchasing an 18" wide dishwasher for my Carver 4207. Anyone have any recommendations? Brands / models to avoid?
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:50 PM   #2
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Some Asians are quite thin. Understand the women are very hard working. Not sure what the paperwork requirement is on purchasing and importing under the current administration.

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I installed a countertop dishwasher inside my cabinet and what I discovered is that most of the models out there had the same innards. Just different badging and cosmetics. Probably the same holds true for the 18" as they are made by the same manufacturers. And price wise, you pay more for add on features. The basic functionality is the same.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:27 PM   #4
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Some Asians are quite thin. Understand the women are very hard working. Not sure what the paperwork requirement is on purchasing and importing under the current administration.

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Can you.post a picture of a good.one? my experiences is. they work very well at first but after 2 years they often stop working altogether
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:10 AM   #6
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Nah, we still call it a boat:



Very handy item when you entertain a lot. Or are lazy/don't feel like doing the dishes. And essentially becomes another storage space.

This GE is 12 years old with about half of them full time live aboard. You hear some griping on the web about modern GE's, but then again it is the web. Bosch is almost always good stuff, a lot of it made here in New Bern, so you are still "buying American", kind of.
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Might want to check with your marina concerning dish wash and food particle discharged. We have to fill out a multi form each year as to showers, washing machines, dish washers, brown water discharge and prove the black water/holding tank is pumped. Also water in the winter is limited, and many times the water is shut off for weeks.
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We have a Bosch "1/2 size" built in d/washer. Has worked perfectly since installation in 2009. It is very water-efficient and when used on the "Light Soiling 45C" setting, is also very fast. No problem running it off a 3000W inverter....but to do this, plumb direct to hot water (ours in engine heated) so it doesn't use its own heater significantly to heat the wash water.
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We have a Bosch "1/2 size" built in d/washer. Has worked perfectly since installation in 2009. It is very water-efficient and when used on the "Light Soiling 45C" setting, is also very fast. No problem running it off a 3000W inverter....but to do this, plumb direct to hot water (ours in engine heated) so it doesn't use its own heater significantly to heat the wash water.
So I take it you don't have it dry the dishes too? At least when on the inverter?
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It drys the dishes just fine
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Might want to check with your marina concerning dish wash and food particle discharged. We have to fill out a multi form each year as to showers, washing machines, dish washers, brown water discharge and prove the black water/holding tank is pumped.
That sounds pretty intrusive to me. Probably enough to have me seriously looking for a different marina.
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Might want to check with your marina concerning dish wash and food particle discharged. We have to fill out a multi form each year as to showers, washing machines, dish washers, brown water discharge and prove the black water/holding tank is pumped. Also water in the winter is limited, and many times the water is shut off for weeks.
So your marina thinks they can control your use of a dishwasher... or the sink for that matter?. Since when in Washington state is illegal to put bio degradables in the water?. What next no freshwater from washing the boat?.
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I have seen folk using the Fisher & Paykel dish drawer model in boats. I think they are available in the US. On a boat, unless huge, one would just have the single drawer model, although they are available normally in a double (one above the other) arrangement, which is what we have at home here and we love it. Very frugal on water, and very quiet, (you can't hear it washing), and this configuration would be ideal on a boat, because there is no door sticking out to bark your shins on or fall over when filling or emptying. The pic might illustrate this point better, so I just shot out to the kitchen and took one with the iPhone - ain't technorridgy great..? (Note to jnall - misspelling deliberate).
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Also water in the winter is limited, and many times the water is shut off for weeks.
I thought he was in Los Angeles?
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Actually a few places like Nantucket that will not allow grey water from dishwashers or washing machines to be disposed of in the harbor. Hope it's not a trend. A good reason to also have a grey water holding tank or to be able to route everything to your holding tank if required.
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So your marina thinks they can control your use of a dishwasher... or the sink for that matter?. Since when in Washington state is illegal to put bio degradables in the water?. What next no freshwater from washing the boat?.
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Amazing but true...I believe the clean water act also prohibits us from letting rainwater flow off our decks without some bureaucratic mumbo jumbo.

Fortunately some boat owning politicians created an amendment or separate act to exempt us...at least temporarily. Not sure if it allows further restriction by state or local governments or even businesses. NDZs seem to be an offshoot of the overall mentality which doesn't seem to be restricted too much as fast as large NDZs are being implemented and proposed.

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What's the difference between water from an automatic dishwasher and water from washing dishes manually?

Why is it you can cut up a fish and throw it overboard and it's considered "bait" or "chum" but if you take a couple bites out of it first it's considered "food waste" and cannot be legally dumped overboard?

If a marina requires you to prove that you've had your holding tank pumped, do they also require you to keep a log of times "pooped" so they will kow if you've had the tank pumped often enough?
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The concept of a dishwasher on a boat (yacht) is so foreign to me... I must be REALLY REALLY roughing it! Only in America!
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