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Old 10-13-2016, 08:32 PM   #21
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Clearly someone that has not actually been on a large Bayliner.

When you get some actual sea time in a large Bayliner, then you will have earned the right to speak about what you at this time have no knowledge of.

BTW, the Bayliner 4788 is by far the most popular 50' class pleasure boat in Alaska.
wooww man! so you know how many hours I have on the water?? great you love bayliner... period. you do not need to attack my skills hours (75K miles logged as commercial and private captain, 35 years on the trade) just over a comment...
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:34 PM   #22
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One of the last sinkings we talked about here was a Nordhavn...

And that was in benign waters along the Delaware River.

To think every Bayliner is an accident waiting to happen indicates beginner boating experience/mentality.
Man.. it's my opinion... opinion are like ass.. everybody have one, like you or not.. Not necessity to start a rant over an opinion... geez!!
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:50 PM   #23
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Consider a Bayliner 3587 like this:

1997 Bayliner 3587 w/ Diesels

Or a Bayliner 4087:

1999 Bayliner 4087

They are seemingly very available. The ones I have seen are Cummins-powered and they have a third small stateroom under the dinette, that might work well with the kids.

These well-respected cruisers (link below) took their 4087 all over the Pacific NW and put 4500 or so hours on it, so I think it's mighty capable. I would be delighted to own one.

Bayliner 4087 MV Dirona

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Old 10-13-2016, 09:21 PM   #24
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Man.. it's my opinion... opinion are like ass.. everybody have one, like you or not.. Not necessity to start a rant over an opinion... geez!!

Can I ask what is the basis for your, apparently negative, opinion of the larger Bayliners like the 4788?


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Old 10-13-2016, 09:47 PM   #25
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Man.. it's my opinion... opinion are like ass.. everybody have one, like you or not.. Not necessity to start a rant over an opinion... geez!!
He does it all the time, you get used to it. Just step around it.
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Old 10-13-2016, 10:04 PM   #26
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I drooled over this one last December, but Sue nixed it. 1987 Island Gypsy Trawler Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

I particularly liked the huge salon, the galley up, huge back porch, the walk-down forward from the flybridge, the dinghy crane. Her mpg must be terrible.
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Old 10-13-2016, 10:08 PM   #27
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wooww man! so you know how many hours I have on the water?? great you love bayliner... period. you do not need to attack my skills hours (75K miles logged as commercial and private captain, 35 years on the trade) just over a comment...
So if you are so knowledgable, how about you share with us specifically what about a ocean going Bayliner that surprises you they can make it to Alaska???

Or could you share why you would not take one more than 5 miles offshore???
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:55 PM   #28
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I drooled over this one last December, but Sue nixed it. 1987 Island Gypsy Trawler Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

I particularly liked the huge salon, the galley up, huge back porch, the walk-down forward from the flybridge, the dinghy crane. Her mpg must be terrible.
The guy seemed to have a "spray tune" fetish.. to bad he didn't buy masking supplies at the same time..

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Old 10-14-2016, 12:31 AM   #29
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The requirement for a family of five and three staterooms kind of knocks you out of boats in the $100k range. If you could add another $100k to the budget, a Bayliner 4788 would be a great boat but only 2 staterooms and they sell in the $200k range. If you could add $150k to the budget, the Endeavour Powercat 44' would be in reach. It has three staterooms but they are all queen size beds.

If the budget is REALLY fixed and you can tolerate an older boat and don't mind being called "we buy ugly boats", something like the Hatteras 44' Motor Yacht would give you three staterooms. Here is one in Fort Lauderdale FL for $60K:

1968 Hatteras Motor Yacht Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Good luck on your search!
You are correct. We need to have two staterooms, but a place (such as a pullout) for our youngest son to sleep.
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:00 AM   #31
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No commercial experience in my past at all.
I have cruised well over 1,000 miles each season for over 35 years by now.
Most all of those years in a 45 or 47 Bayliner.
Have been well outside of 5 miles offshore on many occasions in the NE.
I would not choose to cruise in poor weather but at times you get surprised by forecasts that are less accurate than expected.
As with most of you I have also encountered some pretty tough conditions at times.
Did not have any problems with my Bayliners.
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Old 10-14-2016, 10:41 AM   #32
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Man.. it's my opinion... opinion are like ass.. everybody have one, like you or not.. Not necessity to start a rant over an opinion... geez!!

Speaking of ass, only 23 posts on TF and you already showed yours. That might be a new record.
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One thing to keep in mind is that if you're looking for a lot of boat for not a lot of money you better have a big maintenance, upgrade budget. And you better be hands on since the boat labor norm in a lot of areas is getting close to $100/hr.
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Old 10-14-2016, 02:45 PM   #34
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Can I ask what is the basis for your, apparently negative, opinion of the larger Bayliners like the 4788?


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..me driving a bayliner 3988... it's like drive a pregnant whale...
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Old 10-14-2016, 03:13 PM   #35
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"So if you are so knowledgable, how about you share with us specifically what about a ocean going Bayliner that surprises you they can make it to Alaska???"


Mr. Garrobito has owned the following:
- Bluewater 40
- Cal 20
- Bayliner Avanti
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Old 10-14-2016, 03:46 PM   #36
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[SIZE=4]..me driving a bayliner 3988... it's like drive a pregnant whale...
In my opinion you are just trolling for a argument.

Not the best way to make friends as a newly here.
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..me driving a bayliner 3988... it's like drive a pregnant whale...

I ask a reasonable and sincere question about the basis of your apparent strong negative opinion of the larger Bayliners and this is how you respond.

I appreciate you demonstrating your true colors so early in your tenure here on TF. I will certainly be guided accordingly when, and if, you post here again.

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I looked at a really nice 40' Spindrift - Sundeck/Aft-cabin a couple years ago that had 3 staterooms. Clean, well maintained. Sub 100k. A lot of boat in 40'.

I am not much of a gambler, so I chickened out because of the Volvos. I do think back and kind of wished I had grabbed her. Sigh.

Three stateroom boats are out there. But they tend to be in the 45 - 50 foot range. However, two cabins, plus a hide-a-bed in the salon is pretty doable in a lot of 36'+ boats. That's how my Mainship is set up.
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One thing to keep in mind is that if you're looking for a lot of boat for not a lot of money you better have a big maintenance, upgrade budget. And you better be hands on since the boat labor norm in a lot of areas is getting close to $100/hr.
My partner is a certified marine mechanic, so we are not too worried about maintenance.
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