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Old 02-06-2016, 03:01 PM   #21
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I rebuilt my Lectra-san. New motor bushings and new slingers? I took apart the motors and cleaned them, new paint and oiled the bushings.
And it needed a new electrode pack, I paid $250.
Works great now.
I have the older original manual turn timer with meter.

These electrode packs draw 18 amps when operating optimally with the right salt concentration. I installed an inline amp meter to read the amps going to the pack.

The timer control's meter loses its calibration and will read too low, the meter magnet gets weak. I talked to Vic at Raritan who designed theses things before he retired. You can pop off the cover and move it higher to get it to show in the green. I think I might someday look into a better fix, maybe add a little super magnet. in there. I personally like the manual timer control, no fancy electronic gizmos to fail or not function.

The packs, I cut open the old one. There is a heavy copper wire runs from stud to titanium plate electrode. The solid copper wire, the seal leaks and acid corrodes the wire and it breaks. Then no current can flow to electrode.
IF you buy titanium wire, maybe you could attach to the titanium plate and then the stud and have it working better than before. I think a plain copper wire will quickly fail if not sealed into the pack.
The way they attached copper wire to plates, slits are cut and expanded in the titanium plate. Copper wire passes thru the slits. Then the slits are pressed back into the wire. The plates and wires are sealed in with a rubbery mastic. Eventually since the current flow heats and expands the plates, the seal will fail, letting in the corrosive acid water which destroys the copper wire. The titanium plates will not wear out.
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Old 02-06-2016, 09:04 PM   #22
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No. Tell her to stop by moms house so I can see you.
That was almost like the old days of party phone lines. LOL
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:26 AM   #23
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The really BEST system is found in an RV.

There the toilet is directly above the holding tank and only a very tiny amount of water is needed to flush.

This can multiply the tank endurance by as much as 5 x.

Sadly it usually needs to be built in , and NA seem interested more in the "look" of the interior that useful functions underway.

The holding tank for US cruising could only have a deck pump out fitting , getting you off the hook everywhere.

Even for offshore a portable pump (that could serve double duty as a pump) could empty the tank with no mess .

The Edson gallon a stroke comes to mind.

Almost no plumbing , virtually no maint ,no electric , and Legal,whats not to love?

For the larger boat with many guests the only addition would be a 3 inch drain with a quality (Dupree) waste valve.

Inshore the valve would be capped , off shore the cap removed and a 120V (they work longer) maceriator pump could be used with a vented waste loop.

Unlimited waste removal , and an easy to service pump out pump.

Except it may be a bear to retrofit.
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Old 02-11-2016, 08:40 PM   #24
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here's a thread that popped up the other day under "Other Trawler Syatems"

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Have company aboard that never used a boat toilet before? - just push one button and thats it.

Dont be paranoid - the govt is not going to shut you down. If you are coastal or on an inland navigable waterway that flows into another navigable waterway, more than likely you will be legal.thare are actually very few restrictions. Most of what you hear are urban legends.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:05 AM   #25
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I tossed my holding tank, hoses, y valves, and the head and installed a Natures Head composting toilet and am very happy with it. Another brand is the Airhead. They are great.
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I tossed my holding tank, hoses, y valves, and the head and installed a Natures Head composting toilet and am very happy with it. Another brand is the Airhead. They are great.
I am on another forum where a woman and her husband built their own houseboat and they also installed natures Head and love it.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:14 AM   #27
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I lived with an airhead for 2 years. Ok, for a weekender. Not so good for a live aboard in my view. If you (broke the law) and had urine piped directly overboard would make it better.

Very, very good for second head for guest that has limited use.
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The BEST system is one that doesn't collect or store waste aboard--a USCG certified treatment device that treats and discharges each flush.

The idea that it's ecologically superior to store toilet waste in a tank that must be pumped out and then taken to a sewage treatment plant where it will more than likely be dumped into the water UNtreated the next time it rains is ludicrous! I've always considered it the ultimate irony that the very day RI's statewide NDZ went into a effect, a huge sewage spill from the sewage treatment plant in Providence closed all the shellfish beds and beaches at that end of Narragansett Bay for a week! All the boats with toilets in the state flushing directly overboard simultaeously couldn't have done that!
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Thanks for the heads up on Peggy's new book! Just ordered it.


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"The BEST system is one that doesn't collect or store waste aboard--a USCG certified treatment device that treats and discharges each flush."

Although the frequent failure of municipal systems is well known ,

I do wonder how grinding waste into fine particles , adding (creating) a bit of chlorene and dumping the mix over the side does anything , except sell grinding boxes.

Sure its USCG "approved" , but cleaner than an actual working municipal system?

I doubt it.

With a long time on the water,, I think direct discharge has fewer problems than the politicians allow.
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Sure its USCG "approved" , but cleaner than an actual working municipal system? I doubt it.

What part of "...dumped into the water UNtreated the next time it rains..." implied that it is?
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