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Old 12-06-2017, 05:54 PM   #81
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I always ask for a senior and or a veteran's discount. More times than not, I get something off the bill. In FL if they give me a 5% discount, that is the amount of the tax.
In Florida you can go for an Early Bird. Lots of people flock to them.

I've never asked for a discount at a restaurant. I should have perhaps a couple of nights ago. We all ate at Bern's. It's incredible, especially the desserts, but it's one of the most expensive restaurants around. It has NY and SF prices.
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I would think that if someone is going to hit you up for $75, you're going to the wrong restaurant. There's tons of people that pay cash for restaurant and bar bills in that amount. Heck, one of the places I patronize has a guy that cashes his $100 bills there and I think he's still alive.....
I take a totally different approach if I am i the United States or Canada vs the Caribbean. Street wise security in the Caribbean is paramount. Caribbean cruisers are known for taking precautions that would seem excessive in North American. Most of my friends switch wedding rings when they fly down for the season so that a valuable ring is not shown, credit cards are never left out of one's sight at a restaurant, etc. We have all just learned that caution pays. A druggie who can make $10-$15 per day working sees someone with $75 in cash is tempted, knowing also that the likelihood of criminal penalty is low.
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I take a totally different approach if I am i the United States or Canada vs the Caribbean. Street wise security in the Caribbean is paramount. Caribbean cruisers are known for taking precautions that would seem excessive in North American. Most of my friends switch wedding rings when they fly down for the season so that a valuable ring is not shown, credit cards are never left out of one's sight at a restaurant, etc. We have all just learned that caution pays. A druggie who can make $10-$15 per day working sees someone with $75 in cash is tempted, knowing also that the likelihood of criminal penalty is low.
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I'd prefer to just not patronize places that are that dangerous. No up side and nothing I need to see that bad with the risk.

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Old 12-08-2017, 11:35 AM   #84
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I take a totally different approach if I am i the United States or Canada vs the Caribbean. Street wise security in the Caribbean is paramount. Caribbean cruisers are known for taking precautions that would seem excessive in North American. Most of my friends switch wedding rings when they fly down for the season so that a valuable ring is not shown, credit cards are never left out of one's sight at a restaurant, etc. We have all just learned that caution pays. A druggie who can make $10-$15 per day working sees someone with $75 in cash is tempted, knowing also that the likelihood of criminal penalty is low.
When you start assuming which places are safe and which are not, you put yourself at risk. Don't assume that any place is safe. Not your gas pump, not the pharmacy, not the grocery, not the restaurant, not the marina. I'd never carry enough cash that I wouldn't be fine just handing it over and writing it off as gone. I've never been mugged but know people mugged or who have had their purse or wallet taken in places you'd never suspect.

As to cards, I know it's at risk every time I carry it, every time I use it, and even when I don't use it. Most of the time when we hear about theft of information it's well after it happened. When we get compromised in other ways it's generally sooner but often some delay. The credit card processors get compromised. Every store is at risk. Ultimately, it will happen. The main thing we can do is be quick to discover and remedy. I had an $82 charge on one card in a place I haven't been, from a business I'd never deal with and at a time, I had not used it anywhere I would have thought of as risky. No idea what happened. Charge reversed, card canceled, new card the next morning. The bank doesn't know what happened and their fraud department will only know if there are multiple similar transactions that tie together. Then they'll look for something common to all cards.

As to jewelry, I don't really know the answer. I do know what I don't think it is. I've seen people get copies made of their jewelry but not real stones. However, look real until you get very close. I don't see that lessens the potential of attack at all, just the value taken, and it's the attack I fear most. We're careful about where we go. We go much of the time in groups, but never just one of us. We keep on the lookout. We know it can happen one day and we'll be 100% cooperative before we'll put ourselves at risk. My wife does not wear her wedding ring or other flashy jewelry when we're out sightseeing. We try not to look like good targets. It's like when I traveled to various cities and countries on business, I tried to never look like a businessman. No briefcase and definitely no computer case. No suit. No coat and tie. I'd at most carry some sort of cheap, small duffel bag.

My wife will wear her ring and jewelry and designer dress when we have a dress up night and go to a fancy restaurant or a musical or symphony or something. However, then, we'll drive or take taxi or uber or limosine and not wonder away from our targeted destination.

One other thing. Often thieves work in packs, not singularly. Sometimes one even serves as a distraction. Someone comes up and tries to start some conversation that makes no sense, don't get sucked in. Guy walking alone and some hot, scantily clad girl walks up to him and tries to engage him, nothing good is likely to come of that. We see it in retail where one will try to engage and distract the clerk.

Ultimately theft of cash or hacking of credit card information is likely to happen to you. Just avoid injury and risk of life.

As to the boat we have good security systems.

I will add one comment on locations to what Pelican said. Wherever you are away from home remember you're the outsider. If you get into some dispute or brawl outside your home area, you will very likely have many witnesses against you and for the other guy. We use to tell employees who would visit El Paso, not to under any conditions take a car to Juarez, only taxi, and if you did sometime take a car and have a wreck, leave the car immediately and get back across the border. Once had a NY employee who decided to go to a bar and then hit on a girl there in the Delta of Mississippi. He took her back to his motel room. Later, and the facts are unclear on exactly what happened as his story was definitely a lie, a guy showed up and beat him badly, the guy and girl disappearing quickly. Another employee was called a few hours later to pick him up at the hospital. As the police didn't believe his story, they made no real effort to catch those who did it. I honestly think they felt he deserved it.

For you single men, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. I was once getting on an elevator in Dallas and this gorgeous, scantily clad young girl got on at the last second. She struck up a conversation immediately asking if I was visiting, alone, getting close, playing with her hair and pressing no button on the elevator saying she'd just get off with me. Now, I wanted to think it was my good looks and incredible charm, but as I'd used no charm, I knew it clearly wasn't and she was danger. I didn't let her follow me into my room and wasn't even happy that she saw what room I was in. She knocked at the door and I didn't answer. I called the front desk. They said they'd send security to check the hallway and seemed surprised. The following morning I saw three policemen in the lobby and spoke to them. They'd had a businessman rolled in his room overnight, the third one in the last week. His money, jewelry, ATM card, and credit cards gone and him left handcuffed to the bed. He didn't seem to want the case pursued though. They surmised he probably didn't want his wife to know.
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I'd prefer to just not patronize places that are that dangerous. No up side and nothing I need to see that bad with the risk.

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Many people agree with your approach. In 2010 there were 4,100 cruising boats stored for the summer in Trinidad. Chiefly because of security reasons the number dropped to less than 1,000 in 2016. We stopped storing and visiting there in 2012 for that reason. Some people still love the place.
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Most of my friends switch wedding rings when they fly down for the season so that a valuable ring is not shown,
On a trip to Mexico I took off my heavy gold wedding ring and placed it in the room safe. I slid it under an edge of the safe so that it would not be visible. In the end the joke was on me. When I recovered our passports and cash from the safe when we left I didn't see the ring so I forgot it. I realized it was missing when we were landing in San Francisco. Fat chance you have of recovering an item left in an open room safe!
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There's a few places that I just don't go at all, and Mexico is one of them. Sure there are great places there, but I've been there, done that and the risk isn't worth the benefit.

I've been many places around the world, and I see no upside in going places that safety is questionable, even great countries in questionable areas.

But trawlering probably won't get me to lousy areas. In the US, most lousy areas are parts of big cities, which I avoid all together.

Canada is pretty good. Austrailia is fine, Hong Kong fine, Japan fine, Europe one has to pick the right areas. But hard to beat the good old USA. It's not hard to avoid the crummy parts.

As for being flashy wearing rings and expensive suits, hell, I don't even have that stuff. I don't go to expensive restaurants. (one trip to Burns was enough). Give me a burger and a beer and I'm happy.

So...life is good, but I'm still a cash guy. Cash is still king and if someone rolls me and I lose a grand, it ain't the end of the world as long as they don't hurt me. Never happened. As for a team with some sexy lady trying to coax me in, they are never attractive and sexy. They are usually some worn out gutter girls that are not attractive at all. I prefer a plain Jane country girl with big... well, we'll not go there.
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I usually carry cash with me on trips although not a lot at any one time perhaps a thousand, I also carry credit cards and use them most often. In all my years I have no first hand knowledge of any boater being robbed except for one time in the ‘60s four of us were sleeping on the boat after lots of booze in Bimini when someperson got on the boat and took the money out of our wallets (since then I hide cash on the boat). I don’t see it as a problem unless you look like you have lots of jewelry on and flash wads of cash.

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