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Old 02-07-2018, 10:51 PM   #1
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90k Budget MAYBE HIGHER

Me and my girlfriend have made the decision to live while were young... Just starting too look with no idea where to start for a Trawler... Being a avid offshore fisherman, and tow boat US Captain, thats the only knowledge I hold. Also being an "ok" marine mechanic.... ANY help or advice is greatly appreciated..... Thanks!!
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Old 02-07-2018, 10:57 PM   #2
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard. Not to squash your plans but have you looked into a sportfish?
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:27 PM   #3
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No I have not. Why do you say?
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Greetings,
Mr. C. You mention off shore fishing. A trawler style vessel may be too slow for some types of trolling. They also have higher sides making it more difficult to land "the big ones" although a long gaff should help that.

I don't know how far off St. Augustine the gulf stream is but you do the math if you're only able to travel 7 or 8 knots as opposed to say, 20 or 25 knots.

Again, I don't mean to squash your plans but what do you want the boat to be able to do for you?
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:21 AM   #5
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Ohhhh I'm sorry I miss lead you... Yes, I do fish and I am a Tow Boat cpt along with a little capability in marine mechanics. Those were a few things I was including to let you know a little about me... I am new to this.. I am ultimately looking for a trawler style transient to live onboard/ do a little traveling with my girlfriend and dog.
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Greetings,
Mr. C. Ahhhh.....Proceed as planned and again, welcome aboard.

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hahah sorry for the confusion... ill figure out the ropes!
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:26 AM   #8
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Yachtworld.com is a good place to look at boat porn. You can do an advanced search and pretty much narrow the search down if you know what you are looking for. If you donít know yet what you are looking for, jusy spend a couple of days looking. Boattrader.com is another site, but generally not as much information or photos. Good luck.
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Old 02-08-2018, 04:39 AM   #10
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there's just too many options out there.

90k is a good budget IMO and you need to get on some boats to figure out what size you guys can tolerate.

Check out Airbnb as many people rent out their boats by the night.. cheapest way I know.

Walking around at a boat show won't tell you anything.. Good luck

I have a mainship 34 that can be had at 1/3rd your budget but it would be extremely tight for 2 people to live on.

I'd want a Defever 44 or similar but then you get into twin engines, deeper draft, just much bigger so I wouldn't want to move the boat as much. Always a trade off.
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Go to "boats" on Craigslist for St Augustine, select "boats for sale by owner" then type in "trawler" on the search line and you will find quite a few liveaboard boats in your area. After you have seen a few, you will probably change your mind real quick.
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There are so many options out there for your sub $100k budget. The problem is that many of them are older boats from 80's. That's not necessarily a bad thing but it's something that I didn't wanna get into last year when I was looking. It's definitely tempting though to see a 40' boat with good bones for a "cheap" price vs a newer boat of comparable size from the 90's and early 2000's for 2 or 3 hundred thousand dollars!

Check out the Camano 31. I bought mine last year and am very pleased with her. Very economical to run/maintain and comfy for 2 people. You should be able to find one in that price range. Lots of amenities in a small, manageable package.

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Me and my girlfriend have made the decision to live while were young... Just starting too look with no idea where to start for a Trawler... ANY help or advice is greatly appreciated..... Thanks!!
Begin drawing up lists of must have/nice to have features you'll need/want.

Stand-alone shower? Electric or propane cooking? Galley up, or down? How much sleeping space (guests)? Centerline berth? Two (or more) heads, or is one OK? Flying bridge? Ladder OK, or are stairs necessary? Dual helms? Swim platform? Transom door? (Latter both useful for dogs.) Ways to mount/carry a dinghy... or is towing OK?

And so forth. You can find pros/cons for many of these individual features by searching or asking here...

But the main point it to find an offering with everything you want... and with a boat attached.

If you look on yachtworld (filter at about $150K and below), you can get a beginning idea about models (you could also check out motor yachts in addition to trawlers) to begin an additional list of what boats generally appeal to you... then you can begin to compare some of those to your lists of features... and you can ask here about specific models, etc.

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Greetings,
Mr. C. Read this: Boat Search 101
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Quick warning about budget. If you have $90k, do not buy a $90k boat. I do not believe there is a boat out there less than $150k that is in good shape. We bought towards the top of our budget at $80k, and put $45k into it this year doing all the labor ourselves. I think you'll be much happier if you spend $60k and reserve $30k to fix and improve it.

We bought a 42' grand banks, it has loads of room. I think we could have gone with a 36' and made it work, though it would have been tight. Grand Banks, Defever, Monk are all very good boats. For your budget I would probably look for an Albin - we considered the Albin 40 pretty seriously.

There's a 1987 Albin 40 on yachtworld in florida for $74k - know that brokers will expect you to put in a fairly low offer and then work up from there. The reason this Albin won't sell is because the teak decks need repair - fixing them yourself will require a ton of time, but not much money - so it is possible to get a deal on a boat like that.

The most difficult problems to fix on these boats are teak decks, fuel tanks, engines, and leaking windows (if they've already begun to damage the interior wood).

When we bought, we had no idea what we were looking for, so we contacted a bunch of brokers and went on a weekend road trip and looked at 8 different boats all up the east coast - I would highly recommend it. Every project you have to undertake will cost 3 times what you expected and take 4 times as long you want.
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"Every project you have to undertake will cost 3 times what you expected and take 4 times as long you want."

There is also the 90/90 rule.

90% of the work takes 90% of the time,

The remaining work also takes 90% of the time.

A liveaboard can do lots of work , unless the work disrupts living aboard too much.
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Sometimes pushing the chair away from the computer and walking the docks pays dividends. You are located in an area where there are brokers displaying their wares on the office glass.

Nothing beats eyes on. Then go to a few boat shows and climb aboard. Lift the hatches, educate yourself about engines, heads, stoves, varnish, maintenance and perish the thought - seamanship.

You'll get there, but use those Nikes rather than the backend of your Levis. Talk directly to those who know a few things, walk around the boatyards and enjoy the most fun part of boat buying, the hunt.
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Mr. C......I have a under your budget 46' trawler for sale,if you would like to contact me by email I would be happy to share details.

Email:islandtime1947@gmail.com
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buying a boat can be such a crap shoot.

I few of the issues we've sorted out.

Comfortable seating in the salon, not just an L shaped bench around the table.

Hull design that gives a relatively "dry" ride. Our Camano does that, our old Bayliner 43 did not.

Good dry windows. dealing with leakers is such a pain.

For us, turns out having the ladder to the flybridge tilted a bit...not vertical...makes all the difference. i.e. can you climb it with one hand.

Ease of service access. I do all my own repair and service and being able to get to things is important.

While not critical, keep in mind that if you have to replace a bunch of electronics, it gets expensive. Having a working autopilot, an uptodate chart plotter and depth finder and radar saves you a few thousand.

Ease of getting on and off. For example, we had an aft cabin boat for a while and it was tougher boarding than cockpit boats.

Diesel power. Personal preference, but I'd not have a large gas boat. Diesels are just easier.

economy. It wasn't THE deal, but going from the bayliner to the camano saves more than half the fuel bill

Figuring out whether you can live with 7-8 knots. That's a huge deal.

there are just so many things. On the one hand, without having spent a lot of time on boats, its hard to know which ones are important to you. On the other hand, like anything else, once you pick one and purchase it, you'll get used to it and like it. Just human nature.

good luck and have fun
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:59 PM   #20
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Thanks everybody means a lot
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