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Old 12-17-2014, 12:43 PM   #1
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Your Experience in Really Rough Weather?

Hi Everyone,

I was just looking at this amazing Youtube video of a 500ft navy destroyer in rough weather (see video below) and was thinking what it would be like in a smaller boat (say 50 to 70 foot boat).

Does anyone have experience in this type of weather and have knowledge of how bad it would be in a smaller boat? I'm not sure if these waves are so big that a smaller boat might just ride over them with less drama.

Can someone comment?

Youtube Video of Destoyer in Rough Weather:



I'm interested in doing cross-ocean trips in a boat of the long and thin variety - something like a Dashew 64 or Artnautica 58 - and I'm just interested in learning what it might be like in one of these boats:

Artnautica 58


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Old 12-17-2014, 02:14 PM   #2
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Life in a smaller boat in those conditions has been described as living inside washing machine.
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:26 PM   #3
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...which can then be followed by drowning, which most didn't describe.
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A key design factor of Dashew's FPBs is to outrun the storm, not go through. At 11 knots this is certainly the case if you pay attention to the weather. A careful read of his website and books clearly illustrates procedures for adverse weather avoidance.
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:46 PM   #5
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I don't think you want any of that! Did you see that last wave she went up? Not me brother. You might be able to time and ride some out, but one of them will end your day real quick.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:48 PM   #6
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I once went in a boat delivery trip in a force 6-7 for 3 days: your body becomes exhausted from the effort of standing up, and from grabbing onto rails to stop yourself falling over.

It's the crew that fails, not the boat.

Safehaven boats are made here in Ireland: there's some rough water videos on this page of smaller. 38' boats in atrocious weather.

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Old 12-17-2014, 05:47 PM   #7
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My thoughts in such conditions range from "I wonder if farming sucks as bad as being a mariner" to
" How did my parents raise such an idiot for a son"
Several times in my life I swore that if I ever made it to shore alive, I would become a Librarian the very next day......YMMV

Getting ready to take one of those trips with that type of potential.
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Old 12-17-2014, 05:54 PM   #8
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What is interesting is that the camera, on what I would assume was another vessel was pretty well stabilized.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:10 PM   #9
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Been there. Done that. Don't ever want to do it again. And this was in ocean capable ships.

In a small recreational cruiser, such as most of us have, forgedaboutit (unless you have a death wish).

I have a friend with an IG32 sister to ours who is a retired Master Mariner, Unlimited Tonnage, All Oceans, whose last commands were in VLCCs, who says he would never go to sea again unless it were in a ship over 700' made of steel.
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Life in a smaller boat in those conditions has been described as living inside washing machine.
That's why I prefer being on a ship on the open seas/oceans. Gone through two hurricanes on ships and considered that interesting.
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My sphincter only clenches to around factor 5. I'm not equipped to take a 50 foot boat in those conditions.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:36 PM   #12
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I would have no difficulty with seas like this if I were on a submerged nuclear sub.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:41 PM   #13
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My sphincter only clenches to around factor 5. I'm not equipped to take a 50 foot boat in those conditions.
At factor 5, I can open beer bottles in mine. In those kinds of waves, it would become a cable cutter.
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Depending on whether you can get a fair lead, heaving any boat to on a para anchor or series drogue deployed on a Pardey bridle can turn a stomach turning pounding into an interesting but not terribly uncomfortable event. Larry Pardey describes heaving to in 100 knot winds off a para anchor and sunbathing on the lee side of the deck. I don't think he was lying.

Alternately, turning around and running before the weather trailing the right kind of drogue is second best.

Either way, if you insist on making your course into high winds and seas it will be miserable in most any size boat. Your choice is always to pull off the road by heaving to, or running at slow speed towing a drogue. IMO, anyway.

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I would have no difficulty with seas like this if I were on a submerged nuclear sub.
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That video. Crazy.

Any Navy people on this forum? What is procedure during such weather? Do you minimize people in the bow and stern and try (if orders permit) to stay in the middle of the ship?

I mean from the video, it looks like about ~50-foot amplitude in the bow and stern. I may even be understating it.
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We just dove deeper.
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Well, there was that one day heading out Jupiter Inlet.

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The Coast Guard boats do that at the mouth of the Columbia River.
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Well, there was that one day heading out Jupiter Inlet.

That definitely isn't a Northern Marine!

Nice photochop

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