Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-25-2012, 04:06 PM   #61
Guru
 
City: coos bay
Country: usa
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce View Post
Yeah, and the Coot's property tax is equivalent to that on my home. The good news is that the boat's tax will decrease over time as the state depreciates its value to offset the rising value/tax of the home.
In California it depends upon the county. When i was moored in Sacramento county i paid property tax on my boat but when i moved to San Joaquin county no property tax on my boat. I've been in Oregon for ten years so the info is ten years old but i dont think its changed as i still own property in ca. in both those counties
__________________
Advertisement

bfloyd4445 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 04:59 PM   #62
Master and Commander
 
markpierce's Avatar
 
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: 2011 Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,254
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445 View Post
... when i moved to San Joaquin county no property tax on my boat. ..
???!!!!

San Joaquin County
__________________

__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 05:04 PM   #63
Scraping Paint
 
City: -
Country: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,748
Quote:
Originally Posted by CW View Post
A very interesting read, devoid of the common blanket statement: "It costs 10% of the purchase price annually."
I think that's a good rough average figure for a boater, particularly a new one, to get a basic idea of how much owning a (used) boat of the type most of us have will cost.. It's a good number for the initial, "What can I afford" question.

But as we have seen there are an almost infinite number of variables, so beyond that vary basic "Can I afford to do this?" calculation the 10% figure does not have much relevance when you start running numbers for a specific boat.
Marin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 05:48 PM   #64
Guru
 
City: coos bay
Country: usa
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce View Post
yep, no personal property tax on my boat. Remember i mentioned that wasback before 2000
bfloyd4445 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 07:28 PM   #65
Master and Commander
 
markpierce's Avatar
 
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: 2011 Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,254
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445 View Post
yep, no personal property tax on my boat. Remember i mentioned that wasback before 2000
Well, in Contra Costa County I continued to pay property taxes for thirty-plus years on my pocket Cutter through this year because I sold it last year.
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 08:57 PM   #66
Guru
 
City: coos bay
Country: usa
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce View Post
Well, in Contra Costa County I continued to pay property taxes for thirty-plus years on my pocket Cutter through this year because I sold it last year.
i was nailed with that. Sell your boat at the first of the year and you pay the tax for the whole year. What a rip off

that reminds me. I seem to remember owning boats in Sacramento county for years with no tax then one day getting a tax bill....think that was just after prop 13. was that in the early seventies or late sixties?
bfloyd4445 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 09:09 PM   #67
TF Site Team
 
Pineapple Girl's Avatar
 
City: San Mateo, CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Pineapple Girl II
Vessel Model: PT 35
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,165
I believe prop 13 was early 80s. Maybe late 70s. Guess I could google it. LOL. 1978 per google search.

just to break down the number I posted, slip fee inc. electricity is less than $6000 of that. Prob around $5000 could be considered "upgrades".
__________________
-Jennifer
Pineapple Girl II 1984 PT 35
San Francisco Bay Area
www.pineapple-girl.blogspot.com
Pineapple Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 09:15 PM   #68
Guru
 
City: coos bay
Country: usa
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pineapple Girl View Post
I believe prop 13 was early 80s. Maybe late 70s. Guess I could google it. LOL. 1978 per google search.

just to break down the number I posted, slip fee inc. electricity is less than $6000 of that. Prob around $5000 could be considered "upgrades".
6000 is a lot for electricity. Were u using electric heaters?
bfloyd4445 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 09:59 PM   #69
chc
Senior Member
 
chc's Avatar
 
City: Essex, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Scooter
Vessel Model: 1984 Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 310
For our 1984 Californian 34; 100 -150 hrs avg seasonal use. Fuel @ 10gph $4000; slip, $2600: Insurance $1200; haul/wax/shrinkwrap, etc $1200. I do the oil changes, etc. For now, its worth every dollar
__________________
Scooter
1984 Californian 34 LRC
www.scootersvoyage.blogspot.com
chc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 01:08 AM   #70
TF Site Team
 
Pineapple Girl's Avatar
 
City: San Mateo, CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Pineapple Girl II
Vessel Model: PT 35
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,165
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445 View Post
6000 is a lot for electricity. Were u using electric heaters?
$6000 for the slip. Including electricity.
__________________
-Jennifer
Pineapple Girl II 1984 PT 35
San Francisco Bay Area
www.pineapple-girl.blogspot.com
Pineapple Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 02:12 PM   #71
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,171
I failed to include my slip electricity. It's typically under $10 per month. Looking at last month's bill now, it says $7.92 plus $3 for ice. I don't include food and drink costs in the cost of boating since we would eat and drink on land also.

I suppose I should include bait and tackle costs for fishing. Actually, the bait costs are minimal and are normally shared with fishing friends on board. Fuel burned for fishing is also a shared cost. Tackle and high dollar gear costs were paid in the past and only consumables like line, weights, hooks and swivels need periodic replenishing. Those costs are minimal.
__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 03:06 PM   #72
Scraping Paint
 
City: -
Country: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,748
Electricity is not included in our monthly slip fee. In the summer we are running only the battery charger and the only power being consumed by the boat in its slip is by the refrigerator. So the cost is minimal. Between the end of November to the beginning of April we run two heaters in the boat, one in the engine room and one in the aft cabin. While they are set to the lowest setting with the thermostats halfway up, the power bill is $25-$30 a month.

There is no charge for fresh water use in the marina nor is there any charge to use the pump out dock or the portable pump out carts that are stationed throughout the marina. There is no charge for oil/lubricant/coolant disposal in the two recycling depots in the marina.
Marin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 03:16 PM   #73
Art
Guru
 
Art's Avatar
 
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,979
As we virtually never stay at dock, nearly always cruising to hang on the hook, and unplug our boat from dock when we're not there, our elect cost is less than an avg of $4 per month. Water is free, as is pump out.
Art is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 04:38 PM   #74
Guru
 
City: coos bay
Country: usa
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pineapple Girl View Post
$6000 for the slip. Including electricity.
Ah, thats makes sense
bfloyd4445 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 05:29 PM   #75
Guru
 
City: coos bay
Country: usa
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art View Post
As we virtually never stay at dock, nearly always cruising to hang on the hook, and unplug our boat from dock when we're not there, our elect cost is less than an avg of $4 per month. Water is free, as is pump out.
so you dump sewage into the bay just as san francisco does? Used to be fantastic oyster beds in the bay untill they were polluted my city sewage dumping.
Not that a few boats are an issue to me but cities that violate the law and do it is.

Best wishes
B
bfloyd4445 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 06:06 PM   #76
Scraping Paint
 
City: -
Country: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,748
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445 View Post
so you dump sewage into the bay just as san francisco does?
Don't think that's what Art is saying here. I think he's saying that there is no charge for using whatever pumpout facilities he uses. The situation is the same in our marina as I described in my earlier post.
Marin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 07:15 PM   #77
Guru
 
City: coos bay
Country: usa
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin View Post
Don't think that's what Art is saying here. I think he's saying that there is no charge for using whatever pumpout facilities he uses. The situation is the same in our marina as I described in my earlier post.
ah, maybe i'm mistaken then. At the mention of sewage in the bay San Francisco pops in my mind and the variance they have to dump untreated sewage in the bay which sets me off.
I apolojize for my jumping to conclusions. Thanks for straightening me out
Best wishes
Britt
bfloyd4445 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 07:26 PM   #78
Member
 
LarryBud49's Avatar
 
City: Lusby, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Pleasure Island
Vessel Model: Marine Trader DC 34'
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 24
I've never smoked, rarely drink, and never divorced. How in the world do I justify spending the money for the boat?
LarryBud49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 07:43 PM   #79
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,171
Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryBud49 View Post
I've never smoked, rarely drink, and never divorced. How in the world do I justify spending the money for the boat?
Look at all the money your kept from bars, tobacco companies, divorce lawyers and alimony. You should have the biggest boat here!
__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 07:49 PM   #80
Scraping Paint
 
City: -
Country: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,748
Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryBud49 View Post
I've never smoked, rarely drink, and never divorced. How in the world do I justify spending the money for the boat?
Because spending the money on the boat has prevented you from doing all those life-debilitating things because you didn't have the money to do them. So the boat has proven to be a great investment in your lifestyle, health, and marriage.
__________________

Marin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012