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Boats name is Badger, hat was a present. Have a wide brimmed hat for sunny days. My Dad lost part of his ear to cancer. Don't want to go there...
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Boats name is Badger, hat was a present. Have a wide brimmed hat for sunny days. My Dad lost part of his ear to cancer. Don't want to go there...
Wifey B: Sorry about your dad's ear, but that makes me point out something. Your cap doesn't protect your ear. Your wide brimmed does more I'm sure. My warning to all you cap and hat wearers would be to not think it's protecting your face or ears or forehead even and still use plenty of sunscreen. And as to "sunny days", the overcast days often sneak up on you. We are fanatics about sunscreen but I've seen those who thought it wasn't sunny or thought they stayed under a cover or this or that but ended up badly burned and that's not even counting just the accumulated sun over time. The last couple of weeks we've been in rather cool conditions, always under a top on the bridge even, but we still insist everyone on board be covered with high SPF sunscreen. And for those of you who are somewhat bald, sunscreen there too. For those of you with kids and grandkids, can't start too young with protection.
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Wifey B: Sorry about your dad's ear, but that makes me point out something. Your cap doesn't protect your ear. Your wide brimmed does more I'm sure...
You Florida, me north coast BC...different worlds!
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Wifey B: Yes and no. Very different in frequency and intensity. Still have occasional sun where you are and still have people get sunburned. Does it take one time or a hundred times or a thousand times? Does it take burn or just a lot of sun?

You want to see sunburn, go to NYC on the first nice spring weekend when it warms up in the 50's. I'm sure you have people in your area who get burned the first nice weekend in spring. I remember growing up and people thought if they kept a good tan it protected them. I know Hispanics who think they don't need to worry because of their natural skin color. I've known blacks who joked about it and got badly burned.

I don't know the relative dangers one time to another or such, just know a lot of people from previous generations didn't take precautions and have suffered. I know women my age whose skin looks 20 years older. My generation is the tanning booth generation (No, I've never used one).

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A good friend of mine always wore a visor. Refused to wear a hat. She died last year from melanoma that started right on the top of her head.
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Wifey B: Yes and no. Very different in frequency and intensity...
Which would explain Florida having nearly double the number of melanoma cases per capita than Alaska, according to the CDC.

I bet your overcast days are nothing like our ground scudding, thousands of feet thick, thousands of square miles in area cloud formation overcast days, which usually run into weeks.

Think Ketchikan, and that's pretty much the environment here...less rain, more snow!
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Which would explain Florida having nearly double the number of melanoma cases per capita than Alaska, according to the CDC.

I bet your overcast days are nothing like our ground scudding, thousands of feet thick, thousands of square miles in area cloud formation overcast days, which usually run into weeks.

Think Ketchikan, and that's pretty much the environment here...less rain, more snow!
Wifey B: Been there, saw it. Still wore sunscreen. Long days in the summer. Now, I have some serious questions. In South Florida see a lot of yacht crews, see a lot of boaters, don't see the percentage wearing caps or hats as reflected on this site. Crew Uniform stores sell caps, or some do, but don't see them emphasized. Would seem, based on all discussed here, to be a major oversight.

Now I'd also think that a certain amount of thick hair would be as effective as a cap. However, perhaps some of you can site information that says it isn't. Our of curiosity inspired by this thread, several of us had each other look very closely at our heads and could see no signs of any sun exposure. Regardless, we're going to look at caps for all.

Then another key question. Brimmed hat vs cap. Obviously brimmed might protect ears and forehead or even face better. I still don't see it alleviating the need for sunscreen and just wondering does sunscreen eliminate the need for brimmed.

Oh, and by law, we only allow 3 or 4 truly rainy days a year. Otherwise just an hour or two in the afternoon.

I also ask all you hat wearers, are you being as diligent in using sunscreen? Covering your head not going to protect the rest of you. What SPF are you using? We started this trip with over 500 tubes of sunscreen.
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WifeyB, when we're down in AZ I always wear a hat, usually a wide brimmed hat, even in the swimming pool or out running around in the Whaler. I don't wear it if we're just out running around, in and out of the car, because the brim hits the door post and the top hits the top of the door opening when getting in and out. Major PITA.

For those times it's a baseball cap.

Sunscreen? At my age I question it's usefulness. I've had a few squamous cells excised and those were from damage started 60+ years ago when I was a kid. Sunscreen wasn't even thought of back then.


When I asked my dermatologist about it, I posed this question to him:


--If the damage you're cutting off now is a result of sun I got exposed to over the last 60 years, why wear sun screen? I'll be long dead before any current sun exposure creates problems.


He didn't have an answer to that, just said something to the effect of they recommend it to prevent further damage. So I usually wear it.
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Wifey B: Been there, saw it. Still wore sunscreen. Long days in the summer. Now, I have some serious questions. In South Florida see a lot of yacht crews, see a lot of boaters, don't see the percentage wearing caps or hats as reflected on this site. Crew Uniform stores sell caps, or some do, but don't see them emphasized. Would seem, based on all discussed here, to be a major oversight.

Now I'd also think that a certain amount of thick hair would be as effective as a cap. However, perhaps some of you can site information that says it isn't. Our of curiosity inspired by this thread, several of us had each other look very closely at our heads and could see no signs of any sun exposure. Regardless, we're going to look at caps for all.

Then another key question. Brimmed hat vs cap. Obviously brimmed might protect ears and forehead or even face better. I still don't see it alleviating the need for sunscreen and just wondering does sunscreen eliminate the need for brimmed.

Oh, and by law, we only allow 3 or 4 truly rainy days a year. Otherwise just an hour or two in the afternoon.

I also ask all you hat wearers, are you being as diligent in using sunscreen? Covering your head not going to protect the rest of you. What SPF are you using? We started this trip with over 500 tubes of sunscreen.
My son is very good about using sunscreen. He spent his college years in SoCal and now is in Dallas Tx. He will NOT wear a hat. I think it is a vanity thing. I, OTOH, am perfectly happy wearing a hat but really hate to be bothered with sunscreen.

That may be part of the reason that I seek out shade in the summer. Rather than spending time and money lathering on sunscreen, I prefer to limit my sun exposure. Harder to do in climates where you spend a lot of time IN the water. That rarely happens around here.

I'm not suggesting that foregoing sunscreen is a good idea and I've had plenty of very serious sunburns in my life. I've also had one carcinoma removed from my temple. I should use sunscreen regularly and more thoroughly.

So yes, crew hats would be a good idea, but I bet most crew are just really good about applying sunscreen in the morning and then again in the afternoon.
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WifeyB, when we're down in AZ I always wear a hat, usually a wide brimmed hat, even in the swimming pool or out running around in the Whaler. I don't wear it if we're just out running around, in and out of the car, because the brim hits the door post and the top hits the top of the door opening when getting in and out. Major PITA.

For those times it's a baseball cap.

Sunscreen? At my age I question it's usefulness. I've had a few squamous cells excised and those were from damage started 60+ years ago when I was a kid. Sunscreen wasn't even thought of back then.


When I asked my dermatologist about it, I posed this question to him:


--If the damage you're cutting off now is a result of sun I got exposed to over the last 60 years, why wear sun screen? I'll be long dead before any current sun exposure creates problems.


He didn't have an answer to that, just said something to the effect of they recommend it to prevent further damage. So I usually wear it.
Wifey B: "Recommend it to prevent further damage" seems like a pretty good answer to me. I think there's a lot we still don't know about sunscreen and broad spectrum vs just high SPF. Europe is declaring 50+ as the highest rating and no more of this 75 and 85 SPF for them. And UVA vs UVB. Most protect against UVB but many do little for UVA.

I just read EWG's guide and they said sunscreen should be a last resort. Said, you should:
1. Wear clothes, more of them.
2. Plan around the sun, going out only early morning and late afternoon.
3. Find shade and stay in it.
4. Don't get burned. duh.
5. Wear sunglasses
6. Check UV index

Well, we just aren't going to do most of those. For 1, I'm a bikini girl. Not going to wear long sleeves and long pants on the boat or by the pool. For 2, not going to stay indoors from 10 to 5 or whatever. For 3, we do have a top always up on whatever boat or bridge so do that pretty well. For 4, we use sunscreen and neither of us has been burned at all in the last 17+ years. Not since the winter of 2000. For 5, we do wear sunglasses. Hubby didn't till I "splained" the rules and now he has bunches of them. For 6, we're not going to say this is a bad UV day and we can't go out.

We've had no one burned on our boat or in our pool area. We load on the sunscreen as most don't put nearly the quantity the tests are based on. Funny, the younger people have no issues. Now, 60+/- year old couple who have been on the water their entire lives said they'd never used it. We said, "well, that's about to change." I would classify them both as high risk.

We've started the two 3 year olds on sunscreen from the outset. It comes natural to them to put it on. You mention the pool or boat and they immediately come to you and say put it on them. Just like PFD's which they love (I did find them cute ones) but they associate with the fun of boating.

I don't want to fear the sun but just be sensible. Hubby and I went on a walk in the dead of winter, a couple of months after we met, and he got burned and I felt so guilty that I hadn't noticed him burning or done anything. That was it. Never again.

We need to protect those we love, including our friends.

Oh, we only use SPF 50 or so. The chemicals in some of the higher ones have their own negatives and issues.

And thanks to all you older guys for sharing. We do listen on topics like sun and some of you have experienced what we want to avoid. We value the wisdom and experience.

One last thing. If your dermatologist hasn't checked every inch of your body, they haven't done what they should. Have your spouse or someone do that as well. There are areas you can't see or don't notice. Anything that doesn't look right needs to be checked. If you've got no one to check for you, at least get mirrors and do it.
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Just had to share this. I served on the board and eventually as president of the Optometric Physicians of Washington. When I went off the board I was given some gifts. A great gift was a Raymarine remote for the AP on my sailboat. A gag gift was this Yacht Club Cap. They spent $67.50 on this thing and I think this was only the second time I have worn it to take this picture today. The first time was when they gave it to me at a banquet.
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Just had to share this. I served on the board and eventually as president of the Optometric Physicians of Washington. When I went off the board I was given some gifts. A great gift was a Raymarine remote for the AP on my sailboat. A gag gift was this Yacht Club Cap. They spent $67.50 on this thing and I think this was only the second time I have worn it to take this picture today. The first time was when they gave it to me at a banquet.
Wifey B: You see those on all the charter yachts around here and some of the owner used ones. All the Captains hats. Nice hat. You could wear it in humor and enjoy it one day just to see the reactions.
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Wifey B: You see those on all the charter yachts around here and some of the owner used ones. All the Captains hats. Nice hat. You could wear it in humor and enjoy it one day just to see the reactions.
Yeah, just not in my home waters.
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