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Old 07-09-2014, 11:16 PM   #1
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Wouldn't you know?

Had lunch at the yacht club with the guys and mentioned I was rebuilding my Shur-Flo fresh water pump. A check-writer at the table tells me "his mechanic" just replaced his Jabcso Par Max 3 with a new pump and I can have the pump for nothing. Took it home and of course, it works perfectly. I'm gonna put this puppy in as it has more oomph than the Shur-Flo and keep the Shur-Flo as a back-up. I wonder how much "his mechanic" made on the needless swap?
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:09 AM   #2
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Don't be so hard on check writers as I personally enjoy their hand me downs. My last one was a turbo 350 transmission that needed cleaning, fluid servicing and pan gasket. Sold it for $400 a day later. All in all a good day.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:35 AM   #3
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You sound like you'd enjoy Downeast Dickering. These guys survive day-to-day doing that! All they need is "Uncle Henry's".
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Did you tell the guy it works fine and at least offered it back to him as a spare?
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:25 AM   #5
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Some years ago I noticed early morning ad in CL "1964 40 hp Johnson o/b and 1958 18 hp Johnson w/ 3 6-gal tanks, hoses, and controls - Free". Called and went there that morn. Loaded into my truck and set up on racks when I returned home. Not bad condition at all. Sold em separately week later. Fella had purchased really good condition 1964 21' Glasspar from estate and wanted new, larger motor on it. Guess he had too much money in check account to be bothered with selling the good condition older motors??? Go figure!

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Did you tell the guy it works fine and at least offered it back to him as a spare?
Exactly. Or, do you know what he replaced it with? Maybe he wanted something that performed differently and it wasn't so needless after all.

"Lunch at the yacht club" eh? Yours or his?
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I have one of those that lost pressure and volume. I replaced it and am thinking of rebuilding. It is a model 31295. I looked on Jabsco's site and it did not make it clear what I needed. There did not seem to be a rebuild kit but piece meal parts. Any guidance would be appreciated.
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IMHO, best to purchase new with guarantee.
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I have one of those that lost pressure and volume. I replaced it and am thinking of rebuilding. It is a model 31295. I looked on Jabsco's site and it did not make it clear what I needed. There did not seem to be a rebuild kit but piece meal parts. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Get aquainted with Depco Pump. They can advise you the best course (new, DIY or have them rebuild) and supply whatever you need at a fair price. Just for H2O alone, the Hatteras has 3 engine raw water pumps, 8 electric bilge and or sump pumps, two fresh water pumps, 2 AC pumps, a portable dewatering pump and portable bilge pump, then you have various oil change, fuel transfer units, etc...so they became a fairly important "trusted supplier and adviser" I can recommend readily.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:13 PM   #10
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So I should tell the check-writer he was played for a sucker, instead of tellin' him I put in a rebuild kit and it's back in business? I would rather have him believe he did me a favor and got a mitzvah.
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So I should tell the check-writer he was played for a sucker, instead of tellin' him I put in a rebuild kit and it's back in business? I would rather have him believe he did me a favor and got a mitzvah.
You should do whatever you feel is right.

Personally I would tell him.

1) Because I would think he want to know his mechanic may be taking advantage of him and wasting his money. Wouldn't you?
2) Because in my opinion it's just the right thing to do. He did pay for the pump after all.

And as George mentioned there my be another reason he replaced a perfectly good pump and could care less or even know that it works fine.
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I'm hardly a "check writer" but I regularly gift items to my mechanic when undertaking equipment upgrades. He repairs and resells and I enjoy a clutter free lazerette.
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Old 07-11-2014, 11:28 AM   #13
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Our yacht club has a place for used boating equipment that is "up for grabs." Mostly outdated electronics but some mechanical stuff. Always interestin' to sort through it for possible rebuilds.
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When you have time it makes sense to take a chance and save some cents, when time is sparse and you have some cents replacement makes a lot of sense...
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Rebuild, put on the shelf, rebuild the next worn out one, or buy new if unrebuildable...what good is a warranty if you need it NOW.?? Water pump is a NOW ITEM......
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Why would the guy offer him his surplus equipment, knowing he was needing a pump, if he thought it wasn't fully functional. The gift calls for a thank you not a rejection. Sheesh.
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Why would the guy offer him his surplus equipment, knowing he was needing a pump, if he thought it wasn't fully functional. The gift calls for a thank you not a rejection. Sheesh.
It's not about rejecting a gift. It's about at least letting the guy know he may not be dealing with an honest mechanic.

But of course doing that might cut off the flow of good stuff to be had free.

And I'm guessing the "check writer" did not know the pump was functioning fine or the OP would not have felt the need to post: "So I should tell the check-writer he was played for a sucker, instead of tellin' him I put in a rebuild kit and it's back in business?
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Just my .02 cents worth here.
I'm a mechanic, although on vehicles,still similar problems in business.
We frequently replace parts that are still working just fine,not trying to rip anyone off at all.
What it comes down to is the expected service life of the component,the estimate of the life remaining,
the consequences of that part failing,the warranty that we have to provide on that part and who pays our time if that part fails after we fit it.

In a perfect world we could look at that part from 20 feet away and say it will/will not fail in the next 29.5 days.
One thing clients don't tolerate is telling us to check something,have us say it's OK and then it fails half way though their holidays.Yes we saved the price of a pump or whatever it is,but in the big picture we stuffed their holiday.
So we as mechanics have to be very conservative.When it's your own boat you can do what you like,we can't.
Then there is the question of labor charges,is it worth spending an hours labour on an old pump? Better to put the $ toward a new one.
Sorry for the rant,rarely do customers ever say we rip them off,
most mechanics I know put their customers best interest first.
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We frequently replace parts that are still working just fine,not trying to rip anyone off at all.

Then there is the question of labor charges,is it worth spending an hours labour on an old pump? Better to put the $ toward a new one.
Good point, and one that I had never thought of.
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