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Old 03-19-2015, 12:52 PM   #41
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I'm going to just live with it. I'm not going to respond to something I may not like by any illegal act or equipment. I see people proudly post of the retaliatory measures they'd take and others of using illegal cell phone jammers proudly and I don't grasp it honestly. Two wrongs still do not make a right. If you do something to damage the drone, at the least you'll be responsible for the cost and criminal charges could be pressed if a zealous officer got involved. As to the cell phone jamming, I find some of the loud users just as annoying and have been known to tell some of them to take it outside. But there's also a reason the jamming isn't allowed. How would you feel if unknowingly to you someone was trying to dial 911 for emergency assistance.

I hate all the intrusions on privacy. But they see what they see. I'm not doing anything illegal so ultimately it's nosy, it's no different than gossipers and tabloids, it's annoying, but I'm not going to allow it then to cause me duress. Is doing nothing condoning it? I don't think so. If I want it restricted I'll try to work through other channels. Now I also know I have very little influence there, but me knocking it out of the air isn't going to change anything. The only thing it can possibly do is cause me more problems.

So the answer to whether I'd shoot one down is an emphatic NO. I do realize that the answers of many of you are in jest and do find those humorous, but afraid many might take them seriously and afraid some were meant seriously.
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:40 PM   #42
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It's the internet. What did you expect? Sanity? ROFL.

As you mentioned, I would expect that while most vent, the vast majority would to the right thing.

Now, if the drone becomes a danger to the vessel or passengers aboard, that's a "whole 'nuther story," but nothing to be resolved with firearms.

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Old 03-19-2015, 03:04 PM   #43
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It's the internet. What did you expect? Sanity? ROFL.
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Actually the kind of thing that the internet has been known to get someone on too. Amazing how many criminals have been caught because they posted about it on facebook.

I can see it now. Drone gets tangled in fishing line from someone casting. Here's the interview.

Boater: I was just fishing. It was completely an accident.

Officer: But you posted you would do it on Trawler Forum in advance on March 19.

Boater: Ummmm....I didn't mean it though.

Officer: But you did it so sounds premeditated to me. You'll be charged with 1st degree murder of drone. By the way, just so you know who you killed, the Drone's name was Carlton.
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I'd be more concerned with one getting sucked into the engine of a passenger, or any other, jet.
I'll think it won't be too long before it happens.
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Old 03-19-2015, 03:47 PM   #45
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I'd be more concerned with one getting sucked into the engine of a passenger, or any other, jet.
I'll think it won't be too long before it happens.
I'm afraid you're right. People with toys can become dangerous. Just look at how laser pointers have been used. I can picture someone just wanting to see how high they can get their drone.
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Old 03-19-2015, 05:23 PM   #46
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Actually the kind of thing that the internet has been known to get someone on too. Amazing how many criminals have been caught because they posted about it on facebook."
Yep. People act like facebook and such is their front room. Say, do, show what you want. Don't worry about it, it's private

I don't say anything here that I care if anyone sees.

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I can see it now. Drone gets tangled in fishing line from someone casting. Here's the interview.

Boater: I was just fishing. It was completely an accident.

Officer: But you posted you would do it on Trawler Forum in advance on March 19.

Boater: Ummmm....I didn't mean it though.

Officer: But you did it so sounds premeditated to me. You'll be charged with 1st degree murder of drone. By the way, just so you know who you killed, the Drone's name was Carlton.
That's a great one
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Old 03-19-2015, 06:17 PM   #47
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An overhead camera known as "spidercam" is in use at cricket matches in Australia. It is suspended and positioned on overhead wires, not free, but operates much like a drone. At one point it was low enough and close enough to distract a player in the process of taking a catch. Result: fieldsman distracted, ball dropped, no catch, batsman survived. Lots of press coverage, debate, rule rewriting, followed
My understanding is, in Australia the drone is regarded as an aircraft, but there is zero practical prospect of regulating their operation and flightpath. They have been operated, probably by news gatherers, at forest fires sites, when they are water bombing aircraft pilots are reluctant to operate for fear of collision. Cricket is taken seriously here (well above watching paint dry or grass grow). The cricket incident points up the risk and danger of distraction, which could affect a boat operator. I`d be equally concerned by operator error and being hit by one,many operators will not be the sharpest tool in the shed.
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I will say they can be very useful for taking aerial photos, etc. I needed some pictures of some rural property for sale. The son of a friend brought out his 4 motor drone with video/still camera and sent it up. We got some great pictures on the spot, viewed and selected from his computer screen. In the past that is something we would have had to rent a plane $$ to go up and take them from. I read recently lifeguards were using them to drop inflatable floats to swimmers in distress.
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I'd be more concerned with one getting sucked into the engine of a passenger, or any other, jet.
I'll think it won't be too long before it happens.
Just like everything else in America, nothing will be done until a crowd full of people die from an incident. Proactive is not in the vocabulary. When one gets sucked into an engine and brings a commercial jet down, then the FAA will step in. Until that happens, they will be tied up trying to resolve the already crowded airspace and poorly designed traffic control systems.

I would say that if you do bring a drone down, your best bet is to destroy the evidence so the situation is your word vs. theirs and have no witnesses. Good luck
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Old 03-20-2015, 07:00 AM   #51
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"When one gets sucked into an engine and brings a commercial jet down, then the FAA will step in"

The simple loss of an engine will not bring a commercial jet down.
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While I agree that you may "feel" invaded, it is still free space and even if it does become illegal, you would be the one paying damages for property destruction.

If they are taking pictures of you..the guy flying it may have video of your counterattack.

I would say if the thing is close enough to have you stick an extended boat hook into its rotors, that may get you some sympathy from a judge unless it's good Ole boy country.

I would certainly side with any cruiser about undue annoyances in an anchorage, but I still think you would get yourself tangled up in something more stressful than the drone issue.

That said, let me get mine airborne to video and you tube your counterattack...
So why is ok for the individual to invade my space but not ok for me to defend my space? In other words why is he afforded greater protection than I?
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So why is ok for the individual to invade my space but not ok for me to defend my space? In other words why is he afforded greater protection than I?


I think the problem is the in-discriminant firing of projectiles into the air that may pose a problem.

Defense of "your space" needs to be defined, how much of the air around you is "yours"? Can I disable your radio if it offends me, your boat, your laptop?

I for one would take a dim view if sharing an anchorage with someone firing at some drone nearby.

I do like the kite flying or casting practice idea however.

I wonder how a high power light/laser would effect a camera on a drone, would a spotlight prevent someone from viewing you, signal mirror?
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So why is ok for the individual to invade my space but not ok for me to defend my space? In other words why is he afforded greater protection than I?
Because it's not "Your Space" even if you think of it as such. By current laws, what he's doing it legal and for you to retaliate is illegal. You say "defend my space". Defend it against what? A camera? Is it a deadly camera? I would understand the word "defend" if you are breaking the law and need that not to be seen, but otherwise that's probably not the right word. It would be like defending yourself against your name ever being used on the internet.
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It's not his space either, so if we are sharing space than I will share it with a projectile.
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It's not his space either, so if we are sharing space than I will share it with a projectile.

Perhaps more then one, and more then just yours. We do live in FloraDuh!



PS. Be sure to complain loudly when new rules about where and when you can anchor come out, after shooting at the landowners kids toys next to where you are spending the night.

I for one want to thank you for representing us boaters as tough neck-beards defending their space, the image we have now is way to nice.
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