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09-04-2016, 02:31 PM
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Veteran Member
City: FORT LAUDERDALE,FL
Vessel Name: ARIE
Vessel Model: 2000 43ft SELENE/SOLO
Join Date: Jan 2016
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which would you pick, and why?
I am looking at two boats, both the same year build (1984). Diesel engines.
One boat has about 3600 hours on the hour meter, but has been in a "winterized"( professional done) state, the other has only 203 hours on the meter. This one also looks like the engine is new, but is the original engine.
Which one would you choose, and why?
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09-04-2016, 02:44 PM
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Guru
City: LaConner
Vessel Model: 34' CHB
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Afraid that's not enough info to venture an opinion on. What kind of boat, engine etc.? Need a lot more info.
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09-04-2016, 02:57 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,834
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If the one with 203 hours was a recently rebuilt motor, I'd go that way.
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09-04-2016, 03:47 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,964
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I would not be afraid of either. Pick the boat that suits you best and get an engine survey.
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Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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09-04-2016, 04:42 PM
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Guru
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,023
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What engine maker? I would take a heavy duty diesel over any usual yacht engine. Are either controlled by electronic sensors or circuit boards? What happens if you lose power? Does the engine still run?
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09-04-2016, 04:49 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,646
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What colour are the boats
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09-04-2016, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member
City: discomfort.reactants.peanuts
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaston
What colour are the boats
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The color of the boat would be a big deciding factor for me.
Oh, and don't forget the size of the anchor, that's almost as important as the color. Just Sayin'
P.S. If one was steel and the other was FRP, definitely the steel boat regardless of color or anchor size.
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09-04-2016, 05:56 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captain465
I am looking at two boats, both the same year build (1984). Diesel engines.
One boat has about 3600 hours on the hour meter, but has been in a "winterized"( professional done) state, the other has only 203 hours on the meter. This one also looks like the engine is new, but is the original engine.
Which one would you choose, and why?
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Need way more information.
Size of boats?
Layout of both boats?
Brand of boats?
Condition of both boats?
Brand of engines?
How long has the engine/s with 203 hours on it sat unused?
Etc., etc.
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09-04-2016, 07:10 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Definitely the one with the colored, non-white hull. Because white is ubiquitous and boring.
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09-04-2016, 07:40 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Definitely the one with the colored, non-white hull. Because white is ubiquitous and boring.
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Wifey B: But then if everyone chooses yellow, yours won't be as special and distinctive anymore.....
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09-04-2016, 07:51 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: But then if everyone chooses yellow, yours won't be as special and distinctive anymore.....
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I don't have a yellow hull. Regardless, a yellow hull would be an eye-catcher, and make one quite visible.
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09-04-2016, 08:15 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
I don't have a yellow hull. Regardless, a yellow hull would be an eye-catcher, and make one quite visible.
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Wifey B: No, just a yellow top. Yellow is the most visible color. On the lake it seemed like all the boats were blue.
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09-04-2016, 08:48 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Erie, PA
Vessel Name: LIBERTY
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 70
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Either one is going to be a crap shoot engine wise. You don't really know how well those engines were maintained over the years. Maybe the low hour one was run an hour every two months, or was run for 200 hours the back in 84 and recently run for three hours when it was put up for sale. Maybe the California weather is easier on engines that aren't used often.
The 3000 hour engine hasn't had much use the last few years as I believe the boat sat on the hard for two years before being launched this year (and still hasn't been started). The freeze/thaw cycles that Maryland sees may be more conducive to corroding internal components if there is any moisture present.
I know we like to think that old engines can run forever (and they can if you throw enough time and money at them) but the older I get the more I become convinced that an engine is just like everything else on a boat. It is simply piece of equipment that will need replaced at some point. A trawler with out an engine isn't worth too much.
My vote is for the boat you like the best and if the engine needs replaced some time in the future, so be it.
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09-04-2016, 09:00 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: No, just a yellow top. Yellow is the most visible color. On the lake it seemed like all the boats were blue.
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This pilot boat did my Coot one better as far as yellow goes.
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09-05-2016, 09:27 PM
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Veteran Member
City: FORT LAUDERDALE,FL
Vessel Name: ARIE
Vessel Model: 2000 43ft SELENE/SOLO
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 66
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Trawler, white hull with red,yellow and blue dots, Rocna, delta and bruce anchors on 5/16 all chain rode, Westerbeke 100hp engines. Both boats were live-abords, one on east coast,one on west coast.
(drf6, you are spot on to me. You know exactly which boats I am looking at.)
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09-05-2016, 09:36 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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So they both have the same brand and HP engine in them?
You seem to live in FLL. If so and you plan on keeping the boat here save the money you'd soend on shipping the west coast boat here and buy the east coast boat.
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