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Old 12-05-2016, 04:18 PM   #1
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That will buff right out - boat hits ferry

Probably put her on autopilot while he went below for something and then the ferry pulled out! Clearly on auto as the boat went right back on the path.

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Old 12-05-2016, 04:30 PM   #2
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Well that would certainly wake you up if you were napping! Lucky it didn't cut them in half,
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:32 PM   #3
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That boat held up remarkably well given the apparent force of the collision.

The ferry had the right of way (and the skipper of Nap Tyme seems to clearly be at most fault), but the ferry crew is still responsible for avoiding collisions. It'll be interesting to see what steps (if any) they took to avoid Nap Tyme.
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Wow. It turned our surprisingly well for Nap Tyme. He was probably taking his Nap.
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Retriever: Please explain how the Ferry had the right of way. To me it would appear Rule 15 would apply. Thanks
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:23 PM   #7
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Retriever: Please explain how the Ferry had the right of way. To me it would appear Rule 15 would apply. Thanks
Yep. I agree.


Rule 15 - Crossing Situation*[http://www]

(a) When two*power-driven vessels*are crossing so as to involve risk of collision, the vessel which has the other on her own starboard side shall keep out of the way and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid crossing ahead of the other vessel.
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:28 PM   #9
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Retriever: Please explain how the Ferry had the right of way. To me it would appear Rule 15 would apply. Thanks
You're right...not sure why I momentarily thought the boat was coming from the other way.
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Retriever: Perhaps since it appears to be a double ended ferry and at the end of the video it appears the ferry is backing down hard it may have seemed like it was going the other way.
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That boat held up remarkably well given the apparent force of the collision.

The ferry had the right of way (and the skipper of Nap Tyme seems to clearly be at most fault), but the ferry crew is still responsible for avoiding collisions. It'll be interesting to see what steps (if any) they took to avoid Nap Tyme.
What am I missing here? The pleasure boat was the stand on vessel based on what I was seeing in the video. The pleasure boat was approaching on the ferrys starboord bow. Was the ferry in a narrow channel? Constrained by draft? Big boat little boat rules say the pleasure boat should have let the ferry go but that's another story.
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Even though the pleasure craft was the stand on vessel, I question his decision to play chicken with the ferry. If that's what actually happened.

I actually think he must have been taking a bathroom break or something.
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It would appear as though the ferry boat did indeed have the right of way and the smaller boat was the give way vessel. Evidently there exists a special puget sound traffic control pattern that protects any ferry underway. Probably involves some homeland security measures also in that it is against the law to come within 50 feet even when the ferry is stopped.
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I often wonder when a WS Ferry is departing the terminal, which side of the ferry is starboard, and which is port. These are double-ended boats, so the end profiles are the same. I always assume the ferry is going forward, but then sometimes once away from the terminal, it spins, eventually going forward with the opposite end as bow. In the bright sunshine, its difficult to see whether green or red navigation light is illuminated.

The other thing about Washington State Ferries in my experience, is that they do not monitor Channel 16. I've called them many times on 16th with no results, but eventually raise them on 13. They also monitor the Vessel Traffic Service channel for their area.

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What am I missing here? The pleasure boat was the stand on vessel based on what I was seeing in the video. The pleasure boat was approaching on the ferrys starboord bow. Was the ferry in a narrow channel? Constrained by draft? Big boat little boat rules say the pleasure boat should have let the ferry go but that's another story.
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Even though the pleasure craft was the stand on vessel, I question his decision to play chicken with the ferry. If that's what actually happened.

I actually think he must have been taking a bathroom break or something.
Sure. Now you want to bring common sense into play

The ferry blowing 5 whistles says that he clearly felt that he was the stand on vessel. So maybe there is a local traffic pattern coming into play.
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There is a "security zone" established around all Washington State Ferries of 1500 yds. while moving and 50 yds while moored.
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We have some ferries that go across the ICW to Port Aransas. There are three of them running usually and they always have the right of way IMO, even if I was the stand on vessel. They are really moving pretty damn fast and they scare the hell out of me.

I never can remember the rules well enough to know if I'm stand on or give way, so I always just give way. Unless it's a sailboat, then I always cut in front of them. (Just kidding ).
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Sure. Now you want to bring common sense into play

The ferry blowing 5 whistles says that he clearly felt that he was the stand on vessel. So maybe there is a local traffic pattern coming into play.
5 soundings of the horn has nothing to do with whether he is or thinks he is the stand on vessel or not.
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Old 12-05-2016, 06:54 PM   #19
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Looks like that ferry was almost to the Vashon dock, so more than halfway across. Trawler should have been aware of the ferry. I would say he is lucky to be alive. Can't tell from video when ferry started backing down. Lived on Vashon for 20 years, never saw anything like that, riding those boats.
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5 soundings of the horn has nothing to do with whether he is or thinks he is the stand on vessel or not.
I understand that. Five blasts Says that he doesn't understand the other vessels intentions. However if the ferry felt that he was the give way vessel he would have been figuring out a way to give way and not so concerned about giving five blasts. Wouldn't you say?

From the video it's hard to tell if the ferry made any attempt to give way until the collision was unavoidable...if at all. Regardless of who is at fault a collision is something to avoid.
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