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Old 10-16-2013, 08:44 PM   #21
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I didn't use to wear a PFD. . . ever. . .except in the skiff. But had to set a better example for my kids growing up, who we always made wear a PFD's, when on deck or dock.
We wear our Mustang inflatable PFD's religiously now while fishing, crabbing, or anchoring. If we're going from point A to point B, usually not unless the sea conditions warrant it. They're so light; you hardly notice you're wearing one.
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:53 PM   #22
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We wear inflatables when underway, switch to type 1 if conditions get rough. I've tried that drowning thing in rivers twice before and found it to be Highly Overrated. Finding comfortable inflatables helps. We've gotten use to wearing them and it is part of our procedures.
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:53 PM   #23
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Nope.

Hint: it's something you do, not say....

You question was somewhat vague. Is there someone in the water or not? Yelling MOB is one of the first things you do to set off the alert to the entire crew. You also designate someone to watch the MOB. And you also throw the Type IV. All of these should be done almost instantaneously...while stopping the boat and getting it turned around.

And if you are looking for something like...."Stay calm...don't panic"...then there you have it!
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:54 PM   #24
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PFDs have their place. They may offer a degree of comfort, but don't think for a moment it's a life saving guarantee - take it from someone that almost died underwater while wearing a really expensive one

...better to not let things get that far...

Pop Quiz: You're at the helm when someone discovers that a person on board may be missing. Lets say you don't have a chart plotter, or that it's not turned on. What's the VERY FIRST THING you do??
Simultaneously stop the boat (kill the engines to listen for shouts) and turn on and push the MOB button on your GPS to mark your present location or use any other GPS devise (phones). If no GPS devises throw a flare to mark your spot.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:01 PM   #25
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PFDs have their place. They may offer a degree of comfort, but don't think for a moment it's a life saving guarantee - take it from someone that almost died underwater while wearing a really expensive one

...better to not let things get that far...

Pop Quiz: You're at the helm when someone discovers that a person on board may be missing. Lets say you don't have a chart plotter, or that it's not turned on. What's the VERY FIRST THING you do??
your situation description is too vague to really answer...

I just pray you aren't going somewhere totally archaic like starting a Williamson turn of 60 degrees
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:14 PM   #26
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Simultaneously stop the boat (kill the engines to listen for shouts) and turn on and push the MOB button on your GPS to mark your present location or use any other GPS devise (phones). If no GPS devises throw a flare to mark your spot.
Almost. Good stuff for sure! But before you do all that... and even more important than where you are is:

Where have you been?

Step #1 - Look at the compass.

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Old 10-16-2013, 09:35 PM   #27
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Here in the PNW where the water temp is just a few degrees above freezing, wearing a PFD will just prolong the agony. If you are wearing one, it may take a half an hour to die. If you don't have one, it will be all over in 4 or 5 minutes. (Kinda kidding.)

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Old 10-16-2013, 09:48 PM   #28
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A good read...
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:59 PM   #29
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Spy, it did not connect for me.
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bad link for me, too.
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Very situational for us. Definitely not a routine thing. Night? Ocean? Rough? Cold? Some situations where the answer is yes...
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:40 PM   #32
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Pop Quiz: You're at the helm when someone discovers that a person on board may be missing. Lets say you don't have a chart plotter, or that it's not turned on. What's the VERY FIRST THING you do??

I'd toss something in the water to keep track of the position, and then get someone to do a head count.

No set rules for safety gear. I assess the situation and decide what it needs. Sometimes nothing, and sometimes PFD,harness,safety lines.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:49 PM   #33
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We don't normally wear PFD's except when we're heading into one of the locks on the Snake or Columbia. It's mandatory there for anyone on deck. I sometimes go out to help GW with something so I put it on before we enter the lock.

Other than that....nope
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Spy, it did not connect for me.
Hmmmm. Try this one then.
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Hmmmm. Try this one then.
Much better, thanks for the fix.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:17 AM   #36
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We do not wear PFD's when docking, but we stay inside and let me get the boat in position.

When we cross the cockpit door the swim step, we always have a pfd on, same in the skiff.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:58 AM   #37
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Any paper on boating trauma should feature a jetski on the front page.
Our Maritime authority(now oddly called "Roads & Maritime Authority") has a saying " No one`s day on the water was ever ruined by wearing a life jacket". I guess they are right but I rarely wear one. They are compulsory for bar crossings. Some posts are food for rethinking the subject, we don`t have the low water temperatures you do, but I`ve seen longer offshore swimming events cancelled for risk of hypothermia.
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Speaking of safety, have you seen the remote engine stop device that you can wear and stop your boat if you fall in. Seems cool. Requires shutdown solenoid not pull cable like my old engines.
Our 25' Regal had that, the PO disconnected it.
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You question was somewhat vague. Is there someone in the water or not? Yelling MOB is one of the first things you do to set off the alert to the entire crew. You also designate someone to watch the MOB. And you also throw the Type IV. All of these should be done almost instantaneously...while stopping the boat and getting it turned around.

And if you are looking for something like...."Stay calm...don't panic"...then there you have it!
John, I haven't looked ahead here, but I think he was after tossing in the life-ring, (hopefully with danbuoy light attached), then calling man overboard and doing all your other stuff.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:28 AM   #40
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... stop the boat (kill the engines to listen for shouts) ....
Excellent point!

I have to say that we don't ware the PFDs as much as we should, but they're always within a hand reach. However, the crew always puts the PFDs on when we get in more than comfortable conditions out in the open.

Great points on the different regions and climate, which makes a huge difference in the decision making. When water temp in 70s or better, obviously makes people think that there's "more room for error".

I hope that with time we'll eventually learn to deal with minor inconvenience of waring the PFDs in exchange for grater safety margin.
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