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Old 04-30-2017, 10:05 PM   #1
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When Is It Time To Say Good Bye?

So we are at the Clearwater Beach Marina in Florida and we see this 55' yacht that is in extreme neglect. Talk to the dock hand and was told that he has worked there eight years and the boat has never moved.
This is what the boat should look like:
2005 Uniesse 55 Motoryacht Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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When do we finally let go and sell the boat?
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:18 PM   #2
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:36 PM   #3
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Whichever child executes the estate will show up as a newbie talking to "how well maintained the boat used to be kept until things kinda slipped a little the last few years. Now he has an all cash offer for 25% of what they thought it used to be worth so should they take it or hold out for more money."

I've seen far to many other examples of this.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:21 PM   #4
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I've always thought there should be a law where a boat is confiscated if it isn't used and cared for, and donated to someone willing to do the deferred maintenance and use it regularly.
Similar to what would happen if you didn't feed or care for your dog.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:34 PM   #5
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There are several boats in our marina that are in much worse shape than that. Some have for sale signs on them, others don't. I've never seen anyone at any oF these boats yet they pay their slip rent every month. It's a shame.
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Old 05-01-2017, 12:30 AM   #6
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I don't judge as long as they're causing no harm and that one doesn't appear to be. We don't know the reasons, but you might be suggesting that the owner should sell their dream. Perhaps the dream was to have time to take the kids out or perhaps the grandkids. Perhaps it was to go out with his wife when she recovers from the disease she's been treated for. Perhaps the owner died and the daughter or wife can't bring themselves to sell it. Now, if you do financial calculations, it likely makes no sense, but how do you value a dream? Sometimes the dream is all that's left to hold on to.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:48 AM   #7
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I don't judge as long as they're causing no harm and that one doesn't appear to be. We don't know the reasons, but you might be suggesting that the owner should sell their dream. Perhaps the dream was to have time to take the kids out..... but how do you value a dream? Sometimes the dream is all that's left to hold on to.
If it was a dream, it is approaching nightmare now. There could be tragic reasons the boat fell into disuse and disrepair, but fact is, it`s a mess, and hull damage is likely occurring from the growth.
On any rational basis having a boat like that makes no sense. The owner ought fix it or sell it or both. It`s likely rationality has long gone out the window for a boat to reach that state.
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It's difficult to give up dreams and reminders of good times.

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Old 05-01-2017, 08:08 AM   #9
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What a beautiful boat. Something I would look for as a project after I finish my current project! LOL! The smell must be horrid just walking by.
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What is the maritime equivalent of Fixer Upper?
Looks like a great platform for:
A new-in-town detailer to demonstrate their expertise.
A boat show demo project for all retailers to demonstrate their products.
A shipyard/marina project to offer seminars to boat owners in the marina how to maintain their boats, and to train their own employees.
A testing platform for bottom paint manufacturers.
A marine technical school project boat.
and finally
A police and Coast Guard training vessel, before final destruction.

...trying to see the lemonade.
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:48 AM   #11
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What is the maritime equivalent of Fixer Upper?
A Sinker Downer?

Floater Upper?
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:53 AM   #12
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Goofy story...while perusing craigslist one day, I saw an ad for one of the boats in our marina that is badly neglected. It's a smaller boat with a little cabin. He was asking $995.
I told one of the guys in our marina who's always looking for projects and he said I'm going to offer him $500 for it. The guy was offended at the offer and turned it down.
That was probably six months ago or so. The boat is still sitting there and he's still paying like $235/month slip rent.
He should have taken the $500 and gotten rid of the slip rent bill and be done with it.
Makes no sense.
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The math works out the same for the guy turning down an offer $10k off asking price on a 50'er. Some folks are so focused on the tree they completely miss the forest.
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If it was a dream, it is approaching nightmare now. There could be tragic reasons the boat fell into disuse and disrepair, but fact is, it`s a mess, and hull damage is likely occurring from the growth.
On any rational basis having a boat like that makes no sense. The owner ought fix it or sell it or both. It`s likely rationality has long gone out the window for a boat to reach that state.
Why should they? Because you or others say? Is it hurting anyone other than themselves? I can't judge not knowing what is going on. A lot of life doesn't have to be rational, it can be emotional.
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I think you hit the nail on the head in your title. Many boars in similar conditions are owned by a surviving spouse that hasn't yet been able to let go of the boat. Or the vessel is tied up in probate with no clear owner yet.
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Why should they? Because you or others say? Is it hurting anyone other than themselves? I can't judge not knowing what is going on. A lot of life doesn't have to be rational, it can be emotional.
I think you're on the mark BandB. My wife and I bought this boat two and a half years ago after being "landbound" for close to eighteen years, commercial fished before that.
The idea was to live aboard (we did move aboard immediatly), change a few things for better livability, and explore the BC coast.
Cancer came to call, diagnosed in October. Friday evening I put her in the hospital. Today she moves to hospice. Has maybe one and a half to four weeks.
I'll do what I can to keep the boat (or a boat). Maybe we (the boat and I) will
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I don't judge as long as they're causing no harm and that one doesn't appear to be. We don't know the reasons, but you might be suggesting that the owner should sell their dream. Perhaps the dream was to have time to take the kids out or perhaps the grandkids. Perhaps it was to go out with his wife when she recovers from the disease she's been treated for. Perhaps the owner died and the daughter or wife can't bring themselves to sell it. Now, if you do financial calculations, it likely makes no sense, but how do you value a dream? Sometimes the dream is all that's left to hold on to.


I understand what you are saying, but most of us have seen too many instances where a boat starts to fall into disrepair partly because of financial issues. The problem is that by hanging onto the boat, they financial problems simply get worse. When it is due to emotional issuers, not being able to part with the boat, the emotional pain is often worse when they do see the boat as it deteriorates.

Until the boat is a hazard, my reaction is simply empathy because usually at boat in that condition is telling a story, and it isn't a happy one.
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I think you're on the mark BandB. My wife and I bought this boat two and a half years ago after being "landbound" for close to eighteen years, commercial fished before that.
The idea was to live aboard (we did move aboard immediatly), change a few things for better livability, and explore the BC coast.
Cancer came to call, diagnosed in October. Friday evening I put her in the hospital. Today she moves to hospice. Has maybe one and a half to four weeks.
I'll do what I can to keep the boat (or a boat). Maybe we (the boat and I) will
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Ted, I'm so sorry. I will be praying for you and your wife. So heartbreaking...
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My thanks to the "gang" on the forum.
It passes time and I am still learning from you. Can't ask for more.

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