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04-02-2017, 12:11 PM
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City: Puget Sound
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When things don't go as planned
Saw this on another forum. When a pleasant day sailing in socal didn't go as planned..
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04-02-2017, 12:27 PM
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City: Tri Cities, WA
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Ouch. I doubt that will buff out. I'm surprised the boat didn't split in two when the waves pushed it against those pilings.
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1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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04-02-2017, 12:31 PM
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Senior Member
City: New Tazewell
Vessel Name: Saoirse
Vessel Model: 1983 Nauticat 44 Ketch
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 151
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Sometimes I watch those yacht crash videos on YouTube. Just a horror show, but you can't look away.
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04-02-2017, 01:11 PM
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City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
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I won't dare saying anything against these guys as I have totally no clue about how to sail but looks like they were really not at the right place for this nor in the right meteo condition for them...
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04-02-2017, 01:17 PM
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City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_tribal
I won't dare saying anything against these guys as I have totally no clue about how to sail but looks like they were really not at the right place for this nor in the right meteo condition for them...
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Yeah, it would be interesting to know what happened leading up to that. Once in that location, in those conditions, there was very little they could have done. Lee shore with large breaking waves is just a disaster waiting to happen.
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04-02-2017, 01:35 PM
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City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
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It looked strange to me that while they had some sail up they were moving more sideways than forwards. Loss of keel?
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04-02-2017, 01:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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The video was all over the TV yesterday. It actually took place in Redondo Beach, not Los Angeles.
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04-02-2017, 04:52 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,663
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
It looked strange to me that while they had some sail up they were moving more sideways than forwards. Loss of keel?
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The long video (over 8 min) shows them in trouble 100 m further out, mainsail on the deck, jib wrapped around the forestay. As they approached the pier the jib was just coming under control, but without forward speed and with the rudder hard over, they had no steerage, and it was too late. As it went over, the keel was evidently in place.
Those M242s don't weigh much, so they need a crew of 4 big guys to act as moveable ballast in order to do well on the race course, which is likely where they were coming from.
No time stamps on the video, but it looked like the CGA were on scene in a very short while, standing by just beyond the surf line in case there was anything they could do. By then all of the action was well inside the pier. Sad to see the boat totally demolished in such a short time.
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04-02-2017, 05:05 PM
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City: Sydney
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totally avoidable
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04-02-2017, 05:31 PM
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Guru
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
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The old adage "Your lee shore is your shipwreck". Nasty!
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04-02-2017, 05:58 PM
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City: Philadelphia, PA
Vessel Name: Revel
Vessel Model: 1984 Fu Hwa 39
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I tried to present us all with a .jpg of Google Maps. Failed. Here's an address that should get you to a view on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8420...=en&authuser=0
There's a harbor protected by jetties and the Pier is toward the bottom of the view. Presumably, the stories related above that he was in difficulty earlier are correct. It appears from the video that there was a nice onshore breeze and not all that strong. Waves are only steep and breaking close to shore. Had he not been in difficulty he should have had no problem sailing a very broad reach, mostly downwind, toward the harbor entrance. The boat would have had plenty of speed and he would have been able to sail closer to the wind as he came between the breakwaters. Piece of cake sailing, I'd bet that's a pretty normal wind (onshore) direction. But you don't have many chances for a do-over. (I'd have my pee bucket ready!)
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04-03-2017, 09:52 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Westerly, RI
Vessel Name: N/A
Vessel Model: 1999 Mainship 350 Trawler
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,162
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At the risk of being a Monday Morning quarterback..... I wonder why dropping the anchor wasn't an option??
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04-03-2017, 12:39 PM
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City: Boston
Vessel Name: Adelante
Vessel Model: IG 30
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Noticed some lines wrapped around the boat when it rolled. A sharp knife might have been useful out by the buoy.
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04-03-2017, 02:04 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrew
At the risk of being a Monday Morning quarterback..... I wonder why dropping the anchor wasn't an option??
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Because there wasn't one. Martin 242s race. They don't cruise well not many do. Those that cruise may carry an anchor, but in a race, that extra 10lb brings along a speed penalty.
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04-03-2017, 03:54 PM
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City: Delaware
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Here's an updated news from the internet.
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