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12-09-2012, 01:22 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
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Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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dwhatty,
I didn't see how we could muddy the waters any more and then you did it. haha
I said "Heavy Cruiser". At a point in time when there seemed to be quite a
dwhatty,
A few Cabin Cruisers that were much heavier and slower (not to mention styled differently) than typical cruisers emerged and they started calling them Heavy Cruisers. Eventually the Trawler name started and stuck because many felt that w their Heavy Cruisers they liked the automatic label of being more seasoned, salty, knowledgable, experienced and intelligent than ORDINARY Cruiser skippers. I threw in "intelligent" just for fun. But a name for our boats that describes them (us) best is still "Heavy Cruiser".
Thanks for the pics of the BuCat. I'd post my pics w similar but for TC. See Our old Cars OTDE.
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12-09-2012, 01:40 PM
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City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. Art. would that be SOB's for short? I would think that would more aptly describe the captains rather than the vessels!
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12-09-2012, 05:25 PM
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#143
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City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
Perhaps he's talking about the "geared up" drive system where there is a single engine on C/L geared to twin screws in typical locations. There was an article on a Mainship 34 that had been converted some years back. Haven't heard of it since so it must have failed in the market place. Since redundancy is the main reason to have twin screws twin screws w only one engine probably made people ask "what's the point?".
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Here is what it looks like installed.
Geared Up Systems
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12-09-2012, 05:44 PM
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#144
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Scraping Paint
City: -
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Quote:
Originally Posted by angus99
134 posts and still no consensus on how many "trawlers" can dance on the head of a pin?
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If it's a real trawler, one. If it's a little toy plastic trawler like most of the boats on this forum, 35,253.5.
Those figures are direct from the US Department of Motor Vessels.
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12-09-2012, 06:49 PM
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#145
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City: coos bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
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cwas supposed to be single engine twin screw
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12-09-2012, 06:52 PM
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#146
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City: coos bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
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wow!! ..what a neat idea. Wonder what the fuel consumtion is with the drag of the extra prop and rudder
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12-09-2012, 06:53 PM
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#147
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City: coos bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
If it's a real trawler, one. If it's a little toy plastic trawler like most of the boats on this forum, 35,253.5.
Those figures are direct from the US Department of Motor Vessels.
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ah gaw on, yur just jealous cause you have a woody ..right?...well the fact is woodies are much superior to plastic in many areas
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12-09-2012, 07:02 PM
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Scraping Paint
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445
ah gaw on, yur just jealous cause you have a woody ..right?...well the fact is woodies are much superior to plastic in many areas
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Do you actually read the stuff on this forum? . Look at my avatar. See the "grp" after the type of boat? That stand for "glass reinforced plastic." Our GB is from the first batch of fiberglass GB36s made, with a hull layup personally supervised by Howard Abbey who you can look up in the archives if you're interested. Abbey's contribution to American Marine's Grand Banks line of boats was revolutionary to say the least. He also helped Hatteras get started in fiberglass.
I like wood boats but I would never own one.
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12-09-2012, 07:18 PM
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#149
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City: coos bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
Do you actually read the stuff on this forum? . Look at my avatar. See the "grp" after the type of boat? That stand for "glass reinforced plastic." Our GB is from the first batch of fiberglass GB36s made, with a hull layup personally supervised by Howard Abbey who you can look up in the archives if you're interested. Abbey's contribution to American Marine's Grand Banks line of boats was revolutionary to say the least. He also helped Hatteras get started in fiberglass.
I like wood boats but I would never own one.
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as a matter pf fact i do. You have on more than one occasion pointed that out to us. Just that in that particular response you sounded like you were a wooden boat owner ..Hatteras is a good boat...Marin, in my opinion GB are great, non better wood or glass. ..but i have found that a guy named Poole made a few very fine sailboats that still over thirty years after his death are know for there solid quality construction. He also made the Northeaster trawlers of a DeFever design. I think they may be equal to or exceed the quality of a GB in the companies short lifetime, 1974-834
Marin, when i answer a post i am answering that particular post not analyzing the poster and formatting a reponse accordingly......geez.....gota teach some people everything
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12-09-2012, 07:39 PM
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#150
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445
ah gaw on, yur just jealous cause you have a woody ..right?...well the fact is woodies are much superior to plastic in many areas
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Deleted because of being inappropriate.
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12-09-2012, 08:08 PM
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City: SF Bay Area
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12-09-2012, 08:16 PM
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#152
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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Don I would have liked to have seen the post on the values of wood boats.
"Geared up Systems"
Exactly and I believe they got better (lower) fuel consumption. There were also some rather obvious short comings and some unexpected (for me) advantages. I think the cost effectiveness was best for re-poweres.
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12-09-2012, 08:24 PM
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#153
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City: coos bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
Don I would have liked to have seen the post on the values of wood boats.
"Geared up Systems"
Exactly and I believe they got better (lower) fuel consumption. There were also some rather obvious short comings and some unexpected (for me) advantages. I think the cost effectiveness was best for re-poweres.
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we should start a thread on the topic of wood vessel advantages.
and that was the idea to gain better fuel economy wasnt it?
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12-09-2012, 08:36 PM
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#154
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City: Carefree, Arizona
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bfloyd45 said:
"we should start a thread on the topic of wood vessel advantages.
and that was the idea to gain better fuel economy wasnt it"
Fire away!
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12-09-2012, 09:04 PM
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#155
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Guru
City: coos bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunchaser
bfloyd45 said:
"we should start a thread on the topic of wood vessel advantages.
and that was the idea to gain better fuel economy wasnt it"
Fire away!
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done deal i started the thread
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12-09-2012, 09:22 PM
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#156
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
Don I would have liked to have seen the post on the values of wood boats..
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Not on your life, Eric. I said it was inappropriate. They would run me out of here.
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12-10-2012, 01:18 AM
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#157
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
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This weekend just passed, we took our Lotus out for an overnighter. Wow, how did we let it get so long. Anyway, pleasant as it was, I fished, and fished, and fished. I trolled, (instead of trawled), I used lures..I jigged...I popped..nothing. However, and I still don't know how, all I caught was somehow one line got tangled in the blades of my AirBreeze wind turbine genny, and I had to cut it free. Not when I cast it, no - it had been out a while and in a rod holder, that's the amazing part, how the line got up there round the blades I'll never know - maybe a seagull...? No trawler had worse luck fishing than mine, so I tell people who ask, "I have a trawler style coastal cruiser, but we don't go up the coast much, we stay in the bay, so if you like you could call it Bay Cruiser."
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12-10-2012, 01:37 AM
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#158
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Scraping Paint
City: -
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445
ah gaw on, yur just jealous cause you have a woody ..right?
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Pretty hard to misinterpret that. If you meant somethiing else I missed it because my crystal ball's in the shop this week. Next time write what you mean, not what you think we'll think you think we think you think you mean.
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12-10-2012, 02:48 AM
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#159
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
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Marin, that's just plain circuitous, that is...
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