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Old 10-20-2013, 08:07 AM   #41
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Walt and others it actually is teak or the Willard Boat Owners Group dosn't know shit from teak. There probably is many kinds of Teak like there is many different kinds of Mahogany. It's all oily like all the other Teak I've been around. Feels and looks like teak but really I don't know. And on the cap rail it did turn black like everybody said it would after I quit coating it w my oil. Now I've got to get it through the winter and make a plan for spring. Anybody brought Teak back from black?

If anybody knows about TWP (Total Wood Preservative) finish please start a new thread about it. Comes from AMTECO. Not a marine product.
http://www.twp-AMTECO.com
Have you ever tried the two part Semco cleaner .I brought some pretty nasty looking teak back to life with this .
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:22 AM   #42
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I think the timber gives a nice close warm natural feeling to a boat interior.
Sometimes there can be to much so it becomes a little dark and requires a little lightening up with nice light painted surfaces or other covers.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:57 AM   #43
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Allow me a question

If you don't put wood inside of your boat, either full walls or a nice trim, how can you possibly call it home?

Weird! Can you name a more convenient, safe, accurate, long lasting material for boat interiors?
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:36 AM   #44
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Ben,
Very good point about too much wood being too dark and not reflecting the light. Our big Alaska house was all white inside w windows on the small side. Windows are a bad head sink. Plenty of light though because it was white. Boats in the sun are plenty light even w all wood but as the light fades they become a dark hole.

Nice and bright and there were no windows larger than the windows in these pics. Our present house has white and very light colors almost everywhere. Windows about the same as the AK house and it works.

Bilgewater's and dwhatty's Posts #14 and 32 are great examples of bright and cheery boat interiors.
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:08 AM   #45
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As to some more pics of me and mine...well mine anyway, as the guy taking it is me...come to think of it it nearly always is me...that's why it lopoks like I was hardly there on our video of our UK trip I guess.
But here's my 2iC, youngest son, daughter-in-law, and eldest son's two kids, my grandchildren, sadly mostly in London now. Don't know how eldest son snuck out of the pic, but he did.
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Wood sucks, in or out ......I have tons of it and looks great.... but it still sucks. Just once I would like to leave the boat and not worry if I left a window or hatch open. I loathe closing it all up on a hot summer day to go shopping or whatever in fear of getting my paneling soaked by a sudden summer shower.

I recall seeing an advertisement in a magazine for Carver Yachts many years ago, the add had two pictures, one of a toothpick and the other of a Carver, the ad read something like "there is more wood in this than in our new Carver."

The ad was an obvious attempt to capitalize on the many disgruntled boaters who were fed up with rotting wood all over their boats which had been plaguing the industry at the time. Apparently, eliminating the wood was cheaper than using construction techniques to prevent the rot in the first place.
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:04 AM   #47
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Wood sucks, in or out ......I have tons of it and looks great.... but it still sucks. Just once I would like to leave the boat and not worry if I left a window or hatch open. I loathe closing it all up on a hot summer day to go shopping or whatever in fear of getting my paneling soaked by a sudden summer shower.

I recall seeing an advertisement in a magazine for Carver Yachts many years ago, the add had two pictures, one of a toothpick and the other of a Carver, the ad read something like "there is more wood in this than in our new Carver."

The ad was an obvious attempt to capitalize on the many disgruntled boaters who were fed up with rotting wood all over their boats which had been plaguing the industry at the time. Apparently, eliminating the wood was cheaper than using construction techniques to prevent the rot in the first place.
I think their point was probably talking about the construction techniques...ie no wood in the stringers and none in the laminate/core. Carver actually uses a good bit of interior wood....now and then. And their windows generally don't leak....now and then. I don't know what it is about the Asian builds and their inability to make windows that don't leak.
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The wood interior covers/protects my boat's insulation.



Wood is also handy for making closets, drawers, interior walls, etcetera.



And it looks beautiful.
Wow Mark - Now, that's a new pict! Insulation X 10!! Must be quite warm/cool depending on season. What in G's Name do you do if that insulation were for any reason to ever get wet??? Is it mold proof... it have airflow capabilities for general aeration or drying if necessary?
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Pick on Art - never - he's lovely.
"lovely"??? That's a First! Geeeez and LOL!!
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:10 PM   #50
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"lovely"??? That's a First! Geeeez and LOL!!
Don't get too pumped up, Art. I think "lovely " in Australian means something quite different than you might think. (example: A face that would stop an 8 day clock?)
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Don't get too pumped up, Art. I think "lovely " in Australian means something quite different than you might think. (example: A face that would stop an 8 day clock?)
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So, what is the deal with all that wood in the cabins
My wife likes wood...need I say more?
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I like the traditional white flats with natural wood trim...but now that's harder with electronics as the white is picked up and reflected on the screens.

But a lot of people equate beautiful wood with quality...so much that Sea Ray in the beginning of last decade used to (maybe still does) use an interior material that was plastic covered photographs of cherry (I think) glued to a particleboard or similar. Looked nearly perfect (too perfect) till a little water got behind the plastic and mildewed.
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But a lot of people equate beautiful wood with quality...so much that Sea Ray in the beginning of last decade used to (maybe still does) use an interior material that was plastic covered photographs of cherry (I think) glued to a particleboard or similar. Looked nearly perfect (too perfect) till a little water got behind the plastic and mildewed.
I wonder about such a product these days if the glue that was utilized to attach the plastic laminate were much superior to those older products,....and if the substrate were much superior also. I imagine those somewhat newer laminate flooring products are much more 'waterproof'.

Some of these laminate flooring products really look like wood.
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Don't get too pumped up, Art. I think "lovely " in Australian means something quite different than you might think. (example: A face that would stop an 8 day clock?)
Hang on, Pete is originally a Kiwi(cue the Haka!) and you must remember that this a country where Men are Men, and the sheep are nervous.

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Brian wrote;

"Some of these laminate flooring products really look like wood"

Yes but I'll bet they are much heavier and dense. That would translate into hard and cold. One of the reasons Cedar is popular. It's warm in color and to look at but you KNOW it's actually warm to touch. The well ingrained perception of this warmth is probably the greatest magnet of wood in this day.
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Hang on, Pete is originally a Kiwi(cue the Haka!) and you must remember that this a country where Men are Men, and the sheep are nervous.

Boom Boom!

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haka BEST Haka EVER on HD - All Blacks Haka - Rugby World Cup Final 2011 Vs. France - YouTube
WTF!! My kinda Guys!! - In da red uniforms that is!!

Don’t know bout dem white uniform fluffs! Wish I knew what the heck they were all screaming?? Sure enough audience in stadium watching em.

That a pre game national pastime?? LOL
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The solution is no/little as possible wood outside, lots inside. We used a mid green upholstery inside with our teak interior, a bit dark but very traditional. The Oz built Kellick is an example of an all gelcoat interior (and a very good boat), it`s serviceable but totally stark white. Sunglasses might be good inside.
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